Sky GT Lineup 2012

[maltiv]

Definate
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Wiggins
Cavendish
Eisel (assumedly)
Edvald Boasson Hagen

the rest
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Froome - DB been quoted as saying he needs to repeat last years form
Porte - Said in interview hes in the tour squads during the year but fighting for a place
Siutsou - Said in interview hes riding both - possible for the tour if he can continue his form through
Uran - Likely for the tour unless they want to hold his form for the Vuelta with Henao.
Knees/Zandio - Wiggins favourite two domestiques
Flecha - normally a foregone conclusion but may be past his best for this year
Barry - Not doing the giro, possible road captain for the tour

So already thats 8 riders fighting it out for five places before you even include the likes of Pate, Nordhaug (who isnt riding the giro and hoping to get a tour shot - but more likely vuelta)

Sky are spoilt for choice

I think Nordhaug's a possibility for sure, he was the strongest climber at Sky's training camp and just recently measured an incredible VO2 max of 89.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

he finished 92nd in last years giro yet, you make him out to be the next best thing since sliced bread. fact is he hasn't done anything remarkable yet. he's just an average rider. there's 15 guys having a bigger chance at doing the tour. specialists in either climbing, rouleur or sprinting to help cavendish and gc men

 

[maltiv]

he finished 92nd in last years giro yet, you make him out to be the next best thing since sliced bread. fact is he hasn't done anything remarkable yet. he's just an average rider. there's 15 guys having a bigger chance at doing the tour. specialists in either climbing, rouleur or sprinting to help cavendish and gc men

No I don't, I just say that he has done well in training and in tests, maybe he could have a breakthrough this year. Julich said that Nordhaug could very well be the new Froome, but I doubt that.

I hope you partly see the hypocrisy of your post but I guess that's too much to ask for (by the way, what was Duarte's best GT overall result this year? )

 

[Anonymous]

he finished 92nd in last years giro yet, you make him out to be the next best thing since sliced bread. fact is he hasn't done anything remarkable yet. he's just an average rider. there's 15 guys having a bigger chance at doing the tour. specialists in either climbing, rouleur or sprinting to help cavendish and gc men

where did lance finish in his first tour (no im not saying Lars is as good as lance), but finishing positions for domestiques in grand tours is largely irrelevant.

Sky have had high hopes for Nordhaug all along (but more for week long stage races), but theres no reason why he couldnt make the tour squad (although i think more likely the vuelta)

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

No I don't, I just say that he has done well in training and in tests, maybe he could have a breakthrough this year. Julich said that Nordhaug could very well be the new Froome, but I doubt that.

I hope you partly see the hypocrisy of your post but I guess that's too much to ask for (by the way, what was Duarte's best GT overall result this year? )

jesus hernandez wa sthe best climbing in trainigncamp at astana 2009. lance hyped him like no tomorrow. same he had done with michael baryr based on tests. it's all so much bs

and what does duarte have to do with this? I simply call you out on YOUR point about nordhaug, where do I compare him with duarte?

 

[maltiv]

jesus hernandez wa sthe best climbing in trainigncamp at astana 2009. lance hyped him like no tomorrow. same he had done with michael baryr based on tests. it's all so much bs

Could be, could also not be, impossible to tell. I think he could surprise a few people next year if he stays healthy, but that doesn't mean I think he will win a GT or anything like that. I'm just saying he could do enough to earn a spot at the TDF, although there currently are a lot of guys who are better on paper

 

[JRanton]

Definate
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Wiggins
Cavendish
Eisel (assumedly)
Edvald Boasson Hagen

the rest
--------
Froome - DB been quoted as saying he needs to repeat last years form
Porte - Said in interview hes in the tour squads during the year but fighting for a place
Siutsou - Said in interview hes riding both - possible for the tour if he can continue his form through
Uran - Likely for the tour unless they want to hold his form for the Vuelta with Henao.
Knees/Zandio - Wiggins favourite two domestiques
Flecha - normally a foregone conclusion but may be past his best for this year
Barry - Not doing the giro, possible road captain for the tour

So already thats 8 riders fighting it out for five places before you even include the likes of Pate, Nordhaug (who isnt riding the giro and hoping to get a tour shot - but more likely vuelta)

Sky are spoilt for choice

What about Rogers? Giro?

 

[Anonymous]

jesus hernandez wa sthe best climbing in trainigncamp at astana 2009. lance hyped him like no tomorrow. same he had done with michael baryr based on tests. it's all so much bs

and what does duarte have to do with this? I simply call you out on YOUR point about nordhaug, where do I compare him with duarte?

all he said was nordhaug was a possibility and had good numbers..

 

[Anonymous]

What about Rogers? Giro?

Rogers? Oh yeh.. I had forgotten about him to be honest..

 

[ingsve]

I think Nordhaug's a possibility for sure, he was the strongest climber at Sky's training camp and just recently measured an incredible VO2 max of 89.

Well, he probably needs to show something outstanding in competition before he will be considered for anything big but it will be interesting to see what Bobby Julich can pull out of him considering what he did for Froome.

 

[Escarabajo]

Henao for the Giro.

http://www.revistamundociclistico.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11257&Itemid=74

Sergio Luis Henao: Primero, debo reconocer que se necesita un período de adaptación, conocimiento, aprendizaje de todo el rodaje del ciclismo en Europa ya haciendo parte de un súper-equipo como el SKY, donde no falta absolutamente nada y solamente hay que preocuparse por correr y nada más. Me he fijado como objetivo hacer una gran papel en el Giro de Italia, carrera para la cual estoy designado y que significa el primer gran objetivo de mi primer año en el máximo ciclismo del mundo”.

 

[daveinzambia]

Rogers? Oh yeh.. I had forgotten about him to be honest..

Obviously nothing is guaranteed but saw an interview at nationals where he said his season would be aligned with Brad Wiggins with the intention of helping Brad in Tour

 

[daveinzambia]

I think Nordhaug's a possibility for sure, he was the strongest climber at Sky's training camp and just recently measured an incredible VO2 max of 89.

He was the strongest climber at ONE of the sky training camps. not all the riders were there. No Porte, Rogers, Uran, Heneo, Wiggins or Froome from what i saw.

he did not finish high overall at Giro but think he was chasing stages more than anything else and was often on the attack

 

[profff]

nordhaug : do not give to much importance to the lab test.
wielinga had the best lab result ever, he never won anything important.
danielson is another good example.

 

[jens_attacks]

i also heard about nordhaug capabilities,at least we know what can we expect in vuelta,he won't hit us like froomy did.

 

[hatcher]

Cav hurts Nordhaug's Tour chances.

Nordhaug is one of those riders who very quietly performs much better than you may realise unless you're looking out for him. The sort of rider you fairly consistently find yourself surprised he's still in the top group. I'm sure most teams have them. Some continue to improve, others don't and become solid domestiques.

He hasn't really had many chances to ride for himself, and save for seemingly being the only Sky rider at the Giro who could get in breaks, when he has had extra responsibility he hasn't really performed. It may be inexperience, or it may be that he's just better when working for others.

 

[Vicelard]

Just noticed that Richie Porte has lost a lot of weight compared to previous years.
I wonder how it can improves his climbing.

Would well see him perform in Romandy and California.

 

[Anonymous]

Just noticed that Richie Porte has lost a lot of weight compared to previous years.
I wonder how it can improves his climbing.

Would well see him perform in Romandy and California.

Well you wont see him perform in California because SKy arent going.

Hang on, climbing performance and the races you bring up are Romandy and CALIFORNIA

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

nordhaug : do not give to much importance to the lab test.
wielinga had the best lab result ever, he never won anything important.
danielson is another good example.

don't forget Theo Eltink, still all time high tester on Rabobank with an incredible 7.1 w/kg... And the best he ever got to was 24th in a Vuelta.. lol

 

[Vicelard]

Well you wont see him perform in California because SKy arent going.

Hang on, climbing performance and the races you bring up are Romandy and CALIFORNIA

Taking into account that time trialing remains his thing, yes.
For example, last year he was good on the itt on romandy but couldn't climb in the "hard" stage (despite not too difficult) to make a good overall.
Same in Paris Nice.

 

[ingsve]

Just noticed that Richie Porte has lost a lot of weight compared to previous years.
I wonder how it can improves his climbing.

Would well see him perform in Romandy and California.

What weight? He's always been a tiny guy at least since he came on anyones radar and started to get some results. He's listed at 62kg on the Sky website and from before I think he weighed something like 63kg so at most he has lost 1 kg which I wouldn't call a lot.

 

[Ferminal]

What weight? He's always been a tiny guy at least since he came on anyones radar and started to get some results. He's listed at 62kg on the Sky website and from before I think he weighed something like 63kg so at most he has lost 1 kg which I wouldn't call a lot.

I think he lost his discipline to some extent last season, he said that he'd dropped that weight ("a few kgs") for this season. Will try and find the interview.

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...n-Under-in-order-to-boost-season-chances.aspx

Ok, Richie himself doesn't actually say it, just the author, who suggests he's dropped 7kgs. Don't believe that, although maybe it's just weight he put on at the end of the season.

 

[daveinzambia]

I think he lost his discipline to some extent last season, he said that he'd dropped that weight ("a few kgs") for this season. Will try and find the interview.

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...n-Under-in-order-to-boost-season-chances.aspx

Ok, Richie himself doesn't actually say it, just the author, who suggests he's dropped 7kgs. Don't believe that, although maybe it's just weight he put on at the end of the season.

Definitely heard a couple of riders at nationals mentioning he was looking fit and thin and that he had dropped some weight.

 

[ingsve]

I think he lost his discipline to some extent last season, he said that he'd dropped that weight ("a few kgs") for this season. Will try and find the interview.

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...n-Under-in-order-to-boost-season-chances.aspx

Ok, Richie himself doesn't actually say it, just the author, who suggests he's dropped 7kgs. Don't believe that, although maybe it's just weight he put on at the end of the season.

Ya, there's no way he's dropped 7kg. I guess it's possible that he porked up in the past couple of off seasons and has perhaps lost 7 lbs or something like that and the interviewer mishearded it.

 

[greenedge]

Cav hurts Nordhaug's Tour chances.

Nordhaug is one of those riders who very quietly performs much better than you may realise unless you're looking out for him. The sort of rider you fairly consistently find yourself surprised he's still in the top group. I'm sure most teams have them. Some continue to improve, others don't and become solid domestiques.

Matt Hayman is much more undervalued. Higher than Flecha at P-R , even after being in a break and working for him. He also won Paris- Bourges.