Sky V Garmin 2011

[BroDeal]

'Allo. 'Allo.

 

[stefrees]

This is an interesting thread to bring up. Especially when you see that only 4 voted for sky. Very close between them on cqranking for the year

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

This is an interesting thread to bring up. Especially when you see that only 4 voted for sky. Very close between them on cqranking for the year

Just spotted Sky are actually leading the points rankings for 2011 - incredible, especially with 2nd and 3rd in the Vuelta, and a weekend of Canook domination from Boasson.


And beating Garmin by 2 on the win ranking. Given how Garmin are far more set up for wins with their line-up, this really does highlight how well sky have done, and how modest Garmin have been versus expectations last January.

 

[maltiv]

Just spotted Sky are actually leading the points rankings for 2011 - incredible, especially with 2nd and 3rd in the Vuelta, and a weekend of Canook domination from Boasson.


And beating Garmin by 2 on the win ranking. Given how Garmin are far more set up for wins with their line-up, this really does highlight how well sky have done, and how modest Garmin have been versus expectations last January.

Sky has really stepped up their game in the small stage races (and the bigger 1 week races), which is the main reason for their ranking. I mean they won Bayern, Dauphine, Denmark, Eneco and podiumed TDU, P-N, Oman, Poitou and Route du Sud. Big contrast to last season where they barely contended the GC in any of the stage races their entered.

 

[auscyclefan94]

So making this poll wasn't such a stupid thing to do on my behalf?

Sorry ACF! You were right!

 

[stefrees]

Was probably a wind up at the time, but they're first and second on cq so in hindsight great idea

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

So making this poll wasn't such a stupid thing to do on my behalf?

Sorry ACF! You were right!

still a pointless concept. sky v garmin, who cares.

 

[Midnightfright]

still a pointless concept. sky v garmin, who cares.

The real big question is AG2R vs Quickstep.

 

[greenedge]

Garmin won more stages at the TDF and won a stage at each of the other 2 GT's. In my view Farrar and Haussler did not win as much as they could even in smaller races. Thor has done well but not collected wins everywhere which is a pity. They also won P-R.

Sky have had good riders who have placed well at practically every single race.

 

[Anonymous]

As it stands.

Garmin 28 wins
14/09/2011 HUSHOVD Thor 2.1s Tour of Britain, Stage 4 : Welshpool - Caerphilly
28/08/2011 MARTIN Daniel GT2s Vuelta a España, Stage 9 : Villacastin - La Covatilla (Bejar)
5/08/2011 MARTIN Daniel 2.WTs Tour de Pologne, Stage 6 : Terma Bukovina - Bukowina Tatrzanska
19/07/2011 HUSHOVD Thor GT1s Tour de France, Stage 16 : Saint-Paul-Trois-Châteaux - Gap
15/07/2011 HUSHOVD Thor GT1s Tour de France, Stage 13 : Pau - Lourdes
4/07/2011 FARRAR Tyler GT1s Tour de France, Stage 3 : Olonne sur Mer - Redon
3/07/2011 Team Garmin - Cervélo GT1s Tour de France, Stage 2 : Les Essarts - Les Essarts T.T.T.
26/06/2011 FISCHER Murilo Antonio NC4 National Championships Brazil (Boituva) R.R.
26/06/2011 NAVARDAUSKAS Ramunas NC4 National Championships Lithuania (Utena) R.R.
19/06/2011 MARTIN Daniel 1.1 Giro della Toscana
16/06/2011 FARRAR Tyler 2.1s Ster ZLM Tour, Stage 2 : Eindhoven - Sittard-Geleen
14/06/2011 HUSHOVD Thor 2.WTs Tour de Suisse, Stage 4 : Grindelwald - Huttwil
29/05/2011 MILLAR David GT2s Giro d'Italia, Stage 21 : Milano - Milano I.T.T.
28/05/2011 ZABRISKIE David NCT2 National Championships United States (Greenville) I.T.T.
20/05/2011 ZABRISKIE David 2.HCs Tour of California, Stage 6 : Solvang - Solvang I.T.T.
30/04/2011 ZABRISKIE David 2.WTs Tour de Romandie, Stage 4 : Aubonne - Signal-de-Bougy I.T.T.
10/04/2011 VANSUMMEREN Johan 1.WT1 Paris - Roubaix
6/04/2011 KREDER Michel 2.1s Circuit de la Sarthe - Pays de la Loire, Stage 2 : Saint-Mars-La-Jaille - Angers
10/03/2011 FARRAR Tyler 2.WTs Tirreno - Adriatico, Stage 2 : Carrara - Indicatore
10/02/2011 FISCHER Murilo Antonio 1.1 Trofeo Magalluf - Palmanova
9/02/2011 HAUSSLER Heinrich 2.1s Tour of Qatar, Stage 3 : Al Wakra - Mesaieed
8/02/2011 HAUSSLER Heinrich 2.1s Tour of Qatar, Stage 2 : Camel Race Track - Doha
7/02/2011 FARRAR Tyler 1.1 Trofeo Cala Millor
6/02/2011 FARRAR Tyler 1.1 Trofeo Palma de Mallorca
23/01/2011 MEYER Cameron 2.WT Tour Down Under
21/01/2011 MEYER Cameron 2.WTs Tour Down Under, Stage 4 : Norwood - Strathalbyn
11/01/2011 MEYER Cameron NCT1 National Championships Australia (Ballarat) I.T.T.
9/01/2011 BOBRIDGE Jack NC1 National Championships Australia (Buninyong) R.R.

Sky 31 Wins - only bettered by HTC and Tabriz Petrochemical Cycling Team
30/09/2011 SUTTON Christopher 2.1s Circuit Franco-Belge / Tour de Wallonie-Picarde, Stage 2 : Menin - Poperinge
18/09/2011 DOWSETT Alex 2.1s Tour of Britain, Stage 8a : London I.T.T.
7/09/2011 FROOME Chris GT2s Vuelta a España, Stage 17 : Oion - Peña Cabarga
4/09/2011 DOWSETT Alex NCT2 National Championships Great Britain (Sawtry) I.T.T.
26/08/2011 DOWSETT Alex 2.1s Tour du Poitou Charentes et de la Vienne, Stage 5 : Saint Jacques de Thouars - Poitiers
23/08/2011 APPOLLONIO Davide 2.1s Tour du Poitou Charentes et de la Vienne, Stage 1 : Surgères - Cognac
21/08/2011 SUTTON Christopher GT2s Vuelta a España, Stage 2 : La Nucia - Playas de Orihuela
21/08/2011 BOASSON HAGEN Edvald 1.WT2 Vattenfall Cyclassics - Hamburg
14/08/2011 BOASSON HAGEN Edvald 2.WT Eneco Tour of Benelux
14/08/2011 BOASSON HAGEN Edvald 2.WTs Eneco Tour of Benelux, Stage 6 : Sittard - Sittard
7/08/2011 GERRANS Simon 2.HC Post Danmark Rundt / Tour of Denmark
20/07/2011 BOASSON HAGEN Edvald GT1s Tour de France, Stage 17 : Gap - Pinerolo (Ita)
7/07/2011 STANNARD Ian 2.HCs Österreich-Rundfahrt / Tour of Austria, Stage 5 : St.Johann/Alpendorf - Schladming
7/07/2011 BOASSON HAGEN Edvald GT1s Tour de France, Stage 6 : Dinan - Lisieux
3/07/2011 CARLSTRÖM Kjell NC4 National Championships Finland (Säkylä) R.R.
26/06/2011 WIGGINS Bradley NC2 National Championships Great Britain (Stamfordham) R.R.
23/06/2011 BOASSON HAGEN Edvald NCT3 National Championships Norway (Porsgrunn) I.T.T.
12/06/2011 WIGGINS Bradley 2.WT Critérium du Dauphiné
4/06/2011 APPOLLONIO Davide 2.HCs Tour de Luxembourg, Stage 3 : Eschweiler - Roost
29/05/2011 THOMAS Geraint 2.HC Bayern-Rundfahrt
28/05/2011 WIGGINS Bradley 2.HCs Bayern-Rundfahrt, Stage 4 : Friedberg - Friedberg I.T.T.
25/05/2011 BOASSON HAGEN Edvald 2.HCs Bayern-Rundfahrt, Stage 1 : Pfarrkirchen - Freystadt
17/05/2011 HENDERSON Gregory 2.HCs Tour of California, Stage 3 : Auburn - Modesto
16/05/2011 SWIFT Ben 2.HCs Tour of California, Stage 2 : Nevada City - Sacramento
1/05/2011 SWIFT Ben 2.WTs Tour de Romandie, Stage 5 : Champagne - Genève
17/04/2011 SWIFT Ben 2.1s Vuelta a Castilla y Leon, Stage 5 : Madrigal de las Altas Torres - Medina del Campo
7/03/2011 HENDERSON Gregory 2.WTs Paris - Nice, Stage 2 : Montfort-l’Amaury - Amilly
27/02/2011 SUTTON Christopher 1.1 Kuurne - Brussel - Kuurne
18/02/2011 CUMMINGS Stephen 2.1s Volta ao Algarve, Stage 3 : Tavira - Malhao
23/01/2011 SWIFT Ben 2.WTs Tour Down Under, Stage 6 : Adelaide City Circuit
19/01/2011 SWIFT Ben 2.WTs Tour Down Under, Stage 2 : Tailem Bend - Mannum

15 of skys 31 wins have been by Brits.

 

[Eric8-A]

Just spotted Sky are actually leading the points rankings for 2011 - incredible, especially with 2nd and 3rd in the Vuelta, and a weekend of Canook domination from Boasson.


And beating Garmin by 2 on the win ranking. Given how Garmin are far more set up for wins with their line-up, this really does highlight how well sky have done, and how modest Garmin have been versus expectations last January.

I think the reason is that alot of their riders tried peaking for the classics and others for the Tour, using races as training instead of trying to win.

 

[happychappy]

So making this poll wasn't such a stupid thing to do on my behalf?

Sorry ACF! You were right!

Like the majority of your posts it was mindless baiting and troll babble.

 

[auscyclefan94]

the fact you have cavendish as your avatar says a lot about your character. you are a fan of an arsehole and he is clearly not that dissimilar than you.

 

[Midnightfright]

the fact you have cavendish as your avatar says a lot about your character. you are a fan of an arsehole and he is clearly not that dissimilar than you.

Don't let someone bait you like that ACF. There's no need for his post but you don't need to lower yourself aswell. How would you like it if someone said that about you ir Cadel?

 

[Anonymous]

Some pictures...

Sky v Garmin 2011

And 2010

interesting in that Sky started very slowly but have put in consistent results since then, Garmin on the other hand started better but are now suffering a slump

 

[Anonymous]

Garmin 2010 v 2011

Sky 2010 v 2011

 

[auscyclefan94]

Don't let someone bait you like that ACF. There's no need for his post but you don't need to lower yourself aswell. How would you like it if someone said that about you ir Cadel?

i don't know if he was baiting or not. i don't really care what he says about cadel. it was clear I was joking in the post s/he was quoting due to the fact I was talking in the 3rd person about myslef. He can attack my posts all I like. I'll have a go at him and then be done with. not worth continuing on with it. If someone is annoying me and they have in the past, I don't have to read there posts and that's what I will do.

 

[Midnightfright]

i don't know if he was baiting or not. i don't really care what he says about cadel. it was clear I was joking in the post s/he was quoting due to the fact I was talking in the 3rd person about myslef. He can attack my posts all I like. I'll have a go at him and then be done with. not worth continuing on with it. If someone is annoying me and they have in the past, I don't have to read there posts and that's what I will do.

I wasnt joking and it seemed pretty clear they were baiting you. I just don't like people getting the satisfaction from deliberately baiting.

 

[auscyclefan94]

i didn't say you were joking, I was reffering to happychappy's post of which he quoted one of my posts from ages ago.

 

[Anonymous]

Looking at those graphs you can see the fail from Garmin. The combined Garmin/Cervelo classics squad actually had less wins in March, April and May than last year.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

It's very strange, obviously the quality of victories counts for something too - I know people were saying back in March that Sky had had a better early season, but that was the part of the season they did really well in 2010 - Sky in 2010 managed a lot of good placements but this year they've learnt to convert those into wins. Obviously the 2010 results are skewed a bit by the withdrawal from the Vuelta after Txema González' death affecting their late season too.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Looking at those graphs you can see the fail from Garmin. The combined Garmin/Cervelo classics squad actually had less wins in March, April and May than last year.

farrar pulling out of the giro didn't help garmin's win count in may.

 

[Sum_of_Marc]

farrar pulling out of the giro didn't help garmin's win count in may.

Disagree. He only missed 2 sprint stages in the Giro, both of which were Cavendished.

 

[theyoungest]

Isn't 31 vs. 28 wins not that impressive, as a big money team vs. a team which has surprisingly little to spend?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

On the other hand, the Garmin-Cervélo merger gave them an embarrassment of riches so they didn't NEED to spend money to shore up their team.