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Stage 10 - Wednesday, July 14 2010, Chambéry - Gap, 179 km

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I can't believe I missed all the Wire talk!

Greatest show ever, in my opinion, though I definitely feel like it's one of those shows where you have to watch each episode multiple times to really get everything that's going on. I've probably seen every season save the last one about 6-7 times.

Season 2 definitely starts a little slow, but it's actually one of my favorites. Don't skip it! You'll miss a lot of what's going on in season 3.

Frankly, I'm really surprised so many of you from different countries have seen it. That's pretty cool but I wonder if it is hard to follow as it can even be hard to follow if you aren't from Baltimore at times!

A few people mentioned watching it with subtitles which is a pretty good idea, especially if you're not up on your slang, particularly B-more slang. I've re-watched it with a few different people who were watching it for the 1st time and they really appreciated having the subtitles there (though they aren't always 100% correct).

Moondance, I'm disappointed in you. :(

Oh yeah, this is the race thread - haven't watched it yet, but sounds like it went pretty much as expected. In other words, I didn't miss too much. When was the last time a Portuguese rider won a stage? I honestly can't remember one.
 
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Mellow Velo said:
Paulinho deserved the win as much as anybody. Chapeau.
The peloton made the stage dull.
Right having established the painfully obvious, can we all agree that while the fanboys were served a small antacid pill, today, they are still the ones doing all the major bellyaching?
It causes them to suffer sense of humour deprivation.
(see ACF for symptoms)
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acf is a doctor?:confused:
 
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jaylew said:
I can't believe I missed all the Wire talk!

Greatest show ever, in my opinion, though I definitely feel like it's one of those shows where you have to watch each episode multiple times to really get everything that's going on. I've probably seen every season save the last one about 6-7 times.

Season 2 definitely starts a little slow, but it's actually one of my favorites. Don't skip it! You'll miss a lot of what's going on in season 3.

Frankly, I'm really surprised so many of you from different countries have seen it. That's pretty cool but I wonder if it is hard to follow as it can even be hard to follow if you aren't from Baltimore at times!

A few people mentioned watching it with subtitles which is a pretty good idea, especially if you're not up on your slang, particularly B-more slang. I've re-watched it with a few different people who were watching it for the 1st time and they really appreciated having the subtitles there (though they aren't always 100% correct).

Moondance, I'm disappointed in you. :(

Oh yeah, this is the race thread - haven't watched it yet, but sounds like it went pretty much as expected. In other words, I didn't miss too much. When was the last time a Portuguese rider won a stage? I honestly can't remember one.
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Yep.
I dont want to spoil it for anyone (though since this is the wire thread, why would you visit it if you didnt want to see wire spoilers:D) but the nick sobotka frank sobotka story is just, well the greatest ever. There are no superlatives fit fot it. Its a successor to shakespear plays and greek mythology (and the crime syndicate is greek)
ziggy sobotka adds humour, which is a major part of the wire too.
 
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Meaning he doesn't pull his weight when it comes to the all important team classification? ;)
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There is no "I" in team classification, oh wait...

Had a giggle earlier when ITV was trying to inject some excitement into the stage by banging on about how the riders up front were fiercely contesting the stage with the "all-important team classification" in mind (Phil, who else).
 
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Meaning he doesn't pull his weight when it comes to the all important team classification? ;)
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He wasn't in his team's top 3 riders... though with the way Kloden is climbing he may end up being there.
 
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jaylew said:
I can't believe I missed all the Wire talk!

Greatest show ever, in my opinion, though I definitely feel like it's one of those shows where you have to watch each episode multiple times to really get everything that's going on.
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Hey!

Cycling, The Wire -- you guys have some good taste.

Season 4 is the best, by the way.

Also, you might want to look after this one

http://winter-is-coming.net/

^ -- this might be the new Rome, only better (and with Carcetti).

As to actual race:

Too bad for Kiri, good for Paolinho (though i didn't bothered to watch the stage, and rightly so as it seems).
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Don't disrespect the best team in the mountains. :p
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Kloden's failure this year is puzzling me. Lance (aside from the crash) is climbing as expected. Levi is climbing as expected. Horner is climbing as expected. Brajkovic is being worked to death... but he's doing okay.

Kloden has just not been there. I expected him to be Levi's equal (not great, but able to hang on).

As it is, RS is still just 30 seconds back in the team competition and will probably still win it.
 
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Kloden's failure this year is puzzling me. Lance (aside from the crash) is climbing as expected. Levi is climbing as expected. Horner is climbing as expected. Brajkovic is being worked to death... but he's doing okay.

Kloden has just not been there. I expected him to be Levi's equal (not great, but able to hang on).

As it is, RS is still just 30 seconds back in the team competition and will probably still win it.
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Thanks to breakaways.
 
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Thanks to breakaways.
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Not sure what you mean by that. No radioshack rider being counted toward the team classification was in a breakaway.

They are behind Caisse thanks to breakaways, if that's what you mean. I'm guessing that won't be the case any longer after the mountains.

If Astana wanted to, they could probably be leading it... but they let Navarro lose a ton of time earlier on in order to save energy for the stages that matter. Their trio of climbers (Vino/Contador/Navarro) have certainly performed better then the top 3 RS guys in the mountain stages... just not against the clock.
 
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Kurtinsc, it looks like you don't know how the Team classification is made up.

The best 3 riders on a stage form each team daily time.
On the basis of that, a daily team classification is formed.

The general team classification is adding up the DAILY results.

You seem to think the best 3 riders on the general classification make up the Team Gc.
THIS IS NOT THE CASE.

So, with Paulinho in the breakaway, Radioshack gains 14 minutes. Just compare the team rankings from yesterday with the team ranking of today.
Or go to UCI.ch and read the official rulebook pdf.

If on day A, the best riders are Armstrong, Brajkovic and Paulinho, the Paulinho will count
If on day B, the best riders are Horner, Leipheimer and Klöden, those 3 will count.

The GC standings play no role in the team classification

Official UCI.ch rules:
The team classification for the day shall be calculated on the basis of the sum of the three best individual
times from each team except the team time trial that is governed by the specific regulation of
the event. In the event of a tie, the teams shall be separated by the sum of the places acquired by
their three best placed riders on the stage. If the teams are still tied, they shall be separated by the
placing of their best rider on the stage classification.
The team general classification shall be calculated on the basis of the sum of the three best individual
times from each team in each stage ridden. In the event of a draw, the following criteria shall be
applied in order until the teams are separated:
1. number of first places in the daily team classifications;
2. number of second places in the daily team classifications;
etc.
If there is still a draw, the teams shall be separated by the placing of their best rider in the general
individual classification.
Any team reduced to fewer than three riders shall be eliminated from the general team classification.
 
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Kurtinsc, it looks like you don't know how the Team classification is made up.

The best 3 riders on a stage form each team daily time.
On the basis of that, a daily team classification is formed.

The general team classification is adding up the DAILY results.

You seem to think the best 3 riders on the general classification make up the Team Gc.
THIS IS NOT THE CASE.

So, with Paulinho in the breakaway, Radioshack gains 14 minutes. Just compare the team rankings from yesterday with the team ranking of today.
Or go to UCI.ch and read the official rulebook pdf.

If on day A, the best riders are Armstrong, Brajkovic and Paulinho, the Paulinho will count
If on day B, the best riders are Horner, Leipheimer and Klöden, those 3 will count.

The GC standings play no role in the team classification

Official UCI.ch rules:
The team classification for the day shall be calculated on the basis of the sum of the three best individual
times from each team except the team time trial that is governed by the specific regulation of
the event. In the event of a tie, the teams shall be separated by the sum of the places acquired by
their three best placed riders on the stage. If the teams are still tied, they shall be separated by the
placing of their best rider on the stage classification.
The team general classification shall be calculated on the basis of the sum of the three best individual
times from each team in each stage ridden. In the event of a draw, the following criteria shall be
applied in order until the teams are separated:
1. number of first places in the daily team classifications;
2. number of second places in the daily team classifications;
etc.
If there is still a draw, the teams shall be separated by the placing of their best rider in the general
individual classification.
Any team reduced to fewer than three riders shall be eliminated from the general team classification.
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I stand corrected.


Is it just me... or is that stupid? Is it that way in every race?
 
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Yeah, big move up by the Shack in the team classification stakes.
Posted elsewhere:
from the terrible dark depressing days of this yesterday:

OVERALL TEAM STANDING
Result after stage 9
Total distance covered: 5321.7 km

1. CAISSE D’EPARGNE 131h 05' 36"
2. TEAM RADIOSHACK 131h 06' 07" + 00' 31"


to this phoenix like reincarnation today:

OVERALL TEAM STANDING
Result after stage 10
Total distance covered: 5858.7 km

1. CAISSE D’EPARGNE 147h 07' 02"
2. TEAM RADIOSHACK 147h 07' 33" + 00' 31"
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