Stage 10 - Wednesday, July 14 2010, Chambéry - Gap, 179 km

[Bala Verde]

Put the bin out, did the dishes, read War and Peace. Back now. The rest still not in then

man you are a slow reader

 

[kurtinsc]

I stand corrected.


Is it just me... or is that stupid? Is it that way in every race?

Just for kicks, I took the GC time of the top 3 riders for each team to see if it was different.

RS would still be winning that.

1. RS
2. Rabbobank (5.13 minutes back... do the conversion to seconds yourself if you care)
3. AG2R (8.46 minutes back)
4. Lotto (12.3 minutes back)
5. Caisse (21.2 minutes back)
6. Astana (23.95 minutes back)
7. Liquigas (28.05 minutes back)
8. Cofidis (36.55 minutes back)
9. Sky (38.15 minutes back)
10. Columbia (38.76 minutes back)
11. Euskaltel (42.91 minutes back)
12. Quickstep (53.38 minutes back)
13. BMC (69.3 minutes back)
14. BBOX (69.88 minutes back)
15. FDJ (73.01 minutes back)
16. Saxobank (78.8 minutes back)
17. Garmin (81.48 minutes back)
18. Cervelo (93.11 minutes back)
19. Footon (114.8 minutes back)
20. Katusha (121 minutes back)
21. Milram (145.73 minutes back)
22. Lampre (178.36 minutes back)

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Just for kicks, I took the GC time of the top 3 riders for each team to see if it was different.

RS would still be winning that.

1. RS
2. Rabbobank (5.13 minutes back... do the conversion to seconds yourself if you care)
3. AG2R (8.46 minutes back)
4. Lotto (12.3 minutes back)
5. Caisse (21.2 minutes back)
6. Astana (23.95 minutes back)
7. Liquigas (28.05 minutes back)
8. Cofidis (36.55 minutes back)
9. Sky (38.15 minutes back)
10. Columbia (38.76 minutes back)
11. Euskaltel (42.91 minutes back)
12. Quickstep (53.38 minutes back)
13. BMC (69.3 minutes back)
14. BBOX (69.88 minutes back)
15. FDJ (73.01 minutes back)
16. Saxobank (78.8 minutes back)
17. Garmin (81.48 minutes back)
18. Cervelo (93.11 minutes back)
19. Footon (114.8 minutes back)
20. Katusha (121 minutes back)
21. Milram (145.73 minutes back)
22. Lampre (178.36 minutes back)

It's cute. Do they all get yellow jerseys?
Oh, that's right, only the actual LEADER of the Tour gets one. The competition Shack wanted before they had to...shall we say..."adjust" their priorities to the reality on the ground.

 

[kurtinsc]

It's cute. Do they all get yellow jerseys?
Oh, that's right, only the actual LEADER of the Tour gets one. The competition Shack wanted before they had to...shall we say..."adjust" their priorities to the reality on the ground.

The team competition doesn't mean much of course. I just thought it was being calculated the way I did above... I never knew it was the cumulative results of the top 3 riders from each stage... I thought it was the total results of the top 3 in the GC.

I guess the way it is encourages breakaways to some degree. Not a bad thing I guess. I don't think there's a reason to fault RS for getting time in a breakaway for this competition if they'd actually do better by just using the GC results. The competition matters very little... but the results seem to be earned fair enough.

 

[hrotha]

Moreau attacking to get 0 points in that climb and Popo marking him to protect RS's standing in the team GC is the saddest thing I've ever seen at a TdF.

 

[jaylew]

I guess the way it is encourages breakaways to some degree. Not a bad thing I guess. I don't think there's a reason to fault RS for getting time in a breakaway for this competition if they'd actually do better by just using the GC results. The competition matters very little... but the results seem to be earned fair enough.

Yeah, that's just how it works. The whole reason Caisse is leading is because they had 3 guys in the break yesterday.

 

[Wergeland]

Sky tried to put Boasson Hagen in a breakaway today, but it looked like Cervelo and Lampre thought he had to many Green jersey-point to let him get away.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

The TV in Robert Gesinks room is definately not HD ready

 

[ManInFull]

I can't believe I missed all the Wire talk!

Greatest show ever, in my opinion, though I definitely feel like it's one of those shows where you have to watch each episode multiple times to really get everything that's going on. I've probably seen every season save the last one about 6-7 times.

Season 2 definitely starts a little slow, but it's actually one of my favorites. Don't skip it! You'll miss a lot of what's going on in season 3.

Frankly, I'm really surprised so many of you from different countries have seen it. That's pretty cool but I wonder if it is hard to follow as it can even be hard to follow if you aren't from Baltimore at times!

A few people mentioned watching it with subtitles which is a pretty good idea, especially if you're not up on your slang, particularly B-more slang. I've re-watched it with a few different people who were watching it for the 1st time and they really appreciated having the subtitles there (though they aren't always 100% correct).

Off topic, but I have to say that you are 100% correct--the Wire is the greatest show ever. I ended up buying all of the DVD sets. Too bad more people don't get into it. Stringer Bell is quite a character!

 

[Cobblestones]

Has any team ever raced to win the team competition. Seriously? My feeling was always that it's kind of an afterthought (or no thought given at all). Kind of like the intermediate sprints on most stages.

Let me ask it differently: for instance, have teams pulled back breaks because of the team classification? I'm not aware of any instance, but maybe someone else knows.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Yeah, that's just how it works. The whole reason Caisse is leading is because they had 3 guys in the break yesterday.

Actually no, since Guti was 5 mins down in the end (came in with the Wiggins group). Caisse is leading because they had 2 guys in the break (LL Sánchez and Moreau) and also had Rubén Plaza who's been having a good Tour and held on to Basso's group.

 

[jaylew]

Actually no, since Guti was 5 mins down in the end (came in with the Wiggins group). Caisse is leading because they had 2 guys in the break (LL Sánchez and Moreau) and also had Rubén Plaza who's been having a good Tour and held on to Basso's group.

I knew Gutierrez finished later and almost said "2 guys in the break" in my post, but I didn't because of all the work he did in the break for his teammates.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

I knew what you meant and accepted that Guti's self-sacrificing turns were a key factor in that break.

I just felt like taking an opportunity to mention how good a Tour Plaza is having without immediately having to turn things over to the Clinic, since such opportunities are rare...

 

[The Hitch]

yesterday harmonn and kelly defended the tour from suggestions that the giro was harder by saying that the average speed of the tour is much faster. Well today probably brought the average speed of the tour way below that of the giro. The peloton went about as fast in this hilly stage as the autobus went up the zoncolan.