Stage 19: Saint-Jean-de-Maurienn - La Toussuire-Les Sybelle

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Psalmon said:
I can already hear the post Tour interview with Froome,

"Well in reality I was having very tough days in the Alps, and if the others had attacked me more, successively, I may have cracked. The team was on the edge the whole time. But thankfully my competitors stayed in wheel and we were able to mask my trouble."
You could get the same answer from Quintana! :D
 
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gazr99 said:
Someone needs to attack, Majka looks like he is about to break and can't see Pouels having too much left in the tank

I think only Froome and maybe Condator/Quintana has anything left.
Poels looks fairly fresh.

He's almost been dropped once already, which is why once on the front I can't see him being there for much more than 2kms max
 
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The Hitch said:
Imagine if Contador had taken that attitude to Murito in the 2012 Vuelta.

No one was criticising Movistar on PSM or PDB. There we could see Sky were indeed stronger.

The last few days however they haven't. Both Froome's best domestiques have dropped. Contador has been attacking giving them a platform to jump onto. They haven't had to create anything, the opportunities have been given to them. They haven't even tried.

Its the equivalent of a team losing 2-0 with 30 minutes to go, the other team gets a red card, but instead of trying to fight back, they just put on extra defenders to try and protect their goal difference.


Agreed with Hitch. Spot on, as usual.

Alos, Irondan, convince them to do something about this new quote system. :(
 
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DFA123 said:
This climb is too flat - rubbish choice for the end of a 'queen's stage' in the Alps. It's far too easy to follow wheels - the MJ group is nearly the same size now as at the start of the climb.

I think tomorrow was supposed to be the queen stage, but then it got neutered cuz landslides. :(
 
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DFA123 said:
This climb is too flat - rubbish choice for the end of a 'queen's stage' in the Alps. It's far too easy to follow wheels - the MJ group is nearly the same size now as at the start of the climb.

The group wouldn't be the same if they attacked...
 
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Jim2784 said:
People give out about Sky, but Movistar has ruined this tour, Valverde should F off to another team if he wants to be a GC leader and won't do a bit of DOMing. In any case Quintana has been a joke...

What has ruined the GC spectacle is Froome being miles stronger than everyone else. Quintana has tried, but hasn't got close to dropping him. Valverde isn't strong enough on the hardest climbs to put in a meaningful attack, he is just trying to hang on. Even Contador now is trying to protect 4th/5th position, while 6th-10th have been doing the same throughout the last two weeks.

Froome's strength has made everyone re-assess their goals from the race.
Well said. Quintana has done his homework, turns out he simply isn't good enough. Contador turned up in aweful shape, overestimating either himself or underestimating the competition. Nibali has somehow **** up his preparation.

When everyone is completely inferior to the strongest rider with the strongest team and sound tactics, GC will be boring.

Imagine if Contador had taken that attitude to Murito in the 2012 Vuelta.

No one was criticising Movistar on PSM or PDB. There we could see Sky were indeed stronger.

The last few days however they haven't. Both Froome's best domestiques have dropped. Contador has been attacking giving them a platform to jump onto. They haven't had to create anything, the opportunities have been given to them. They haven't even tried.

Its the equivalent of a team losing 2-0 with 30 minutes to go, the other team gets a red card, but instead of trying to fight back, they just put on extra defenders to try and protect their goal difference.

I think the difference is that Contador was 2-0 down (i.e under a minute) and was playing against a team that had consistently thrown away leads in the past.

Quintana and Valverde are 4-0 down (three to four minutes) and against an opponent that is a very strong front-runner.

At that stage you just regroup and try to keep the score respectable.