Steffen Kjaergaard - the naive and innocent Norwegian? ;)

[ToreBear]

A Norwegian using dope?!

 

[ToreBear]

And the idiot Dag Erik Pedersen! Yesterday he said he was in shock over Armstrongs doping, and cut up his Livestrong bracelet, and today he says when he said to VG two years ago that all Norwegian riders should come clean and tell it all it was Kjærgaard he was thinking of, because he was riding with Lance on US Postal. Make up you mind! Did you understand Lance was doping just this week or had you understood it "already" two years ago?

Whats your problem with Pedersen?

 

[Fidolix]

And Inggard Lereim, Mr. Norwegian Anti-doping senior, + doctor for the Norwegian cross country team back in the day, has egg all over his face today, only yesterday he gave this interview:

"Inggard Lereim has followed national and international anti-doping work for several years, and is one of the leading experts in anti-doping work.

He does not believe Norwegian cyclists have been implicated in doping, either now or in the past.

- With the long strong traditions of Anti-Doping Norway, I think the ethical ballast to our riders are so good that we should be optimistic, says Lereim, who is also vice chairman of Anti-Doping Norway.

He believes there is a significant difference in anti-doping work in Norway versus other cycling nations.

- It is hard to work with anti-doping in some countries. In Norway, we are fortunate that we have a sport policy management that supports us, but in many other countries they have a longer tradition of doping than of anti-doping. Then it is hard, says Lereim."

http://www.nrk.no/sport/sykkel/1.8368204

It´s absolutely no surprise.
Norwegians believe all their athletes especially the cyclists are the best in the world, they are all clean and doping is none existing in Norway.

Unbelievable thinking how many skaters, skiers and long distance skiers who have been caught for doping. But I guess it´s just the Norwegian mentality.

 

[Fidolix]

Whats your problem with Pedersen?

I would say he have a point, buying a LS bracelet kinda proves it.

 

[kottila]

It´s absolutely no surprise.
Norwegians believe all their athletes especially the cyclists are the best in the world, they are all clean and doping is none existing in Norway.

Unbelievable thinking how many skaters, skiers and long distance skiers who have been caught for doping. But I guess it´s just the Norwegian mentality.

At least he had to leave the country and join a Danish team before he started (still hopes we're mostly clean)

 

[Fidolix]

At least he had to leave the country and join a Danish team before he started (still hopes we're mostly clean)

And I guess your logic also counts for the skiers and skaters?
which never sat their legs in Denmark.

How about take responsibility for your own actions up there in north, you not better than anybody else.

 

[kottila]

And I guess your logic also counts for the skiers and skaters?
which never sat their legs in Denmark.

How about take responsibility for your own actions up there in north, you not better than anybody else.

I said mostly didn't I, what I meant is that I hope it has never been something that has been part of the culture of our national teams, but the choice of individual athletes.

 

[Fidolix]

Steffen Kjærgaard: For nearly 15 years I have kept a lie. What has emerged in the last two weeks of the report on U.S. Postal've done that I've been forced to pull out my dark lies of the past.

My career as a professional began in 96 I witnessed a dirty game which I was quite unprepared. in the 98-season I took the choice that I had to take part in the premises I felt the Council in the field if I was going to hang myself. Took the initiative to take EPO. Suddenly, one with again.

I 99, I contacted a Belgian doctor to get help for guidance and to avoid the risk of getting caught.

Steffen Kjærgaard: When I became part of the U.S. Postal everything was more in the direction of the team. I did not settle on their own.

It was a new scheme at the time. I was part of the U.S. Postal her until now fairly well-known regime to prepare riders to the limit. I was in just over three seasons. I experienced poor response to using illegal drugs in the end, and decided to give me that.

I do not know about others on the team who have worked with illegal substances, but can certainly assume that.

Steffen Kjærgaard: I do not be a part of blood doping. The best known remedy I have used is cortisone.

I hope to take this with me to the grave, but I feel like hell and can not carry on the lie anymore.

Hopefully something good out of this in the future, but right now I have no good.

Steffen Kjærgaard: For me this has been three eras. Before I was a professional, while I was professional and after I was professional. It has been difficult to engage in anti-doping work because I've had problems with my own conscience.

I hope no other cyclists in Norway have taken or are taking the choice I made ​​15 years ago.

Google translation sucks but I think you can make most of it.

 

[torkil]

The norwegian cycle federation started the press conference about Steffen Kjærgaards confession with a statement of support for Pat McQuaid. Surreal.

And Steffen Kjærgaard does not want to implicate anyone else than himself.

 

[mikkemus23]

The norwegian cycle federation started the press conference about Steffen Kjærgaards confession with a statement of support for Pat McQuaid. Surreal.

And Steffen Kjærgaard does not want to implicate anyone else than himself.

Yes, shows that the federation has no clue about what went on

 

[torkil]

Yes, shows that the federation has no clue about what went on

And that they have no clue on how to fix it.

 

[Fidolix]

Yes, shows that the federation has no clue about what went on

No surprise either.

 

[hrotha]

Yes, shows that the federation has no clue about what went on

Really? Maybe it shows they know too well.

 

[Velo1ticker]

It´s absolutely no surprise.
Norwegians believe all their athletes especially the cyclists are the best in the world, they are all clean and doping is none existing in Norway.

Unbelievable thinking how many skaters, skiers and long distance skiers who have been caught for doping. But I guess it´s just the Norwegian mentality.

Please name some norwegian skaters, skiers and long distance skiers who have been caught.

I thought the norwegian claim is relating to organised doping because there are idiots everywhere. Antidoping in Norway are doing a better job than many other counties when you check how many that are caught by national antidoping versus internatinal antidoping agencies. I get the impression that they are able to stop the idiot early in their careers compared to say Italy or Belgium. In Spain they hand out prizes after they are caught.

 

[Ney the Viking]

Erm, does it not show that the federation very much knows what is going on? McQauid Washed hands in public, now we have a token admission from the past, the norwegian federation backs McQuaid just like most of the other federations. No implications in the admisssion, just buisness as usual, doping was somthing that happened in the 90'ies *rolleyes*.

 

[Ney the Viking]

Really? Maybe it shows they know too well.

I guess i am not the only one

 

[Cloxxki]

Interesting, a non-responder to EPO and transfusions? Even if he has a natural Hct of 52, there would still be options to take advantages.

 

[Velo1ticker]

Really? Maybe it shows they know too well.

Have you taken you medicine today or do you think a begian doctor hires for the norwegian federation?

 

[torkil]

The president of the norwegian federation actively stops questions about other dopers than Kjærgaard and does not want any discussion on doping other than the admission of Kjærgaard. Im actually shocked as a norwegian to see the omerta living even in the norwegian federation.

Mads Kaggestad tried to confront Kjærgaard about the fact that everyone knew, but Kjærgaard still denies seeing anyone else doping.

 

[mikkemus23]

He doesn`t want to name names. He looks the fool

 

[Fidolix]

Please name some norwegian skaters, skiers and long distance skiers who have been caught.

I thought the norwegian claim is relating to organised doping because there are idiots everywhere. Antidoping in Norway are doing a better job than many other counties when you check how many that are caught by national antidoping versus internatinal antidoping agencies. I get the impression that they are able to stop the idiot early in their careers compared to say Italy or Belgium. In Spain they hand out prizes after they are caught.

Objective: There is widespread public concern about fairness in sports. Blood doping undermines fairness and places athletes' health at risk. The purpose of this study was to examine the prevalence of abnormal hematologic profiles in elite cross-country skiers, which may indicate a high probability of blood doping.

Setting and Participants: Samples were obtained as part of routine International Ski Federation blood testing procedures from participants at the World Ski Championships. Sixty-eight percent of all skiers and 92% of those finishing in the top 10 places were tested.

Main Outcome Measures: Using flow cytometry, we analyzed erythrocyte and reticulocyte indices. Reference values were from the 1989 Nordic Ski World Championships data set and the International Olympic Committee Erythropoietin 2000 project.

Results: Of the skiers tested and finishing within the top 50 places in the competitions, 17% had highly abnormal hematologic profiles, 19% had abnormal values, and 64% were normal. Fifty percent of medal winners and 33% of those finishing from 4th to 10th place had highly abnormal hematologic profiles. In contrast, only 3% of skiers finishing from 41st to 50th place had highly abnormal values.

Conclusions: These data suggest that blood doping is both prevalent and effective in cross-country ski racing, and current testing programs for blood doping are ineffective. It is unlikely that blood doping is less common in other endurance sports. Ramifications of doping affect not only elite athletes who may feel compelled to risk their health but also the general population, particularly young people.

How many of the Norwegians were prosecuted, even investigated?
None, and still you claim the Norwegian anti doping agency do a better job than most others. That makes sense.
I have to ask you, are you Norwegian?

 

[Cloxxki]

I get the distinct impression Norwegians are just plain better at not littering proof of their doping all over the road and the internet. When they shut their mouth, it's for a large part to protect compatriots. A seperate Norwegian omerta I suppose. If if now USPS is thrown under the bus. Bad, bad Americans. They made the strong Norwegian dirty.

 

[Velo1ticker]

Objective: There is widespread public concern about fairness in sports. Blood doping undermines fairness and places athletes' health at risk. The purpose of this study was to examine the prevalence of abnormal hematologic profiles in elite cross-country skiers, which may indicate a high probability of blood doping.

Setting and Participants: Samples were obtained as part of routine International Ski Federation blood testing procedures from participants at the World Ski Championships. Sixty-eight percent of all skiers and 92% of those finishing in the top 10 places were tested.

Main Outcome Measures: Using flow cytometry, we analyzed erythrocyte and reticulocyte indices. Reference values were from the 1989 Nordic Ski World Championships data set and the International Olympic Committee Erythropoietin 2000 project.

Results: Of the skiers tested and finishing within the top 50 places in the competitions, 17% had highly abnormal hematologic profiles, 19% had abnormal values, and 64% were normal. Fifty percent of medal winners and 33% of those finishing from 4th to 10th place had highly abnormal hematologic profiles. In contrast, only 3% of skiers finishing from 41st to 50th place had highly abnormal values.

Conclusions: These data suggest that blood doping is both prevalent and effective in cross-country ski racing, and current testing programs for blood doping are ineffective. It is unlikely that blood doping is less common in other endurance sports. Ramifications of doping affect not only elite athletes who may feel compelled to risk their health but also the general population, particularly young people.

How many of the Norwegians were prosecuted, even investigated?
None, and still you claim the Norwegian anti doping agency do a better job than most others. That makes sense.
I have to ask you, are you Norwegian?

You just answered why norwegian didn't win anything in the 1980s. Please name some of many you claim have been doping. There are some for sure but you must have some names.

 

[fat_boy_fat]

A press conference with Thor Hushovd and his coach follows at 4 p.m.

 

[Lukenwolf]

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