Steven Kruijswijk

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Come on, Dekker_Tifosi. Kruijswijk was spectacular in the 2016 Giro but Uran has 3 Grand Tour podiums. I think Kruijswijk's average level is closer to Mollema than it is to Uran.
 
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WheelofGear said:
Come on, Dekker_Tifosi. Kruijswijk was spectacular in the 2016 Giro but Uran has 3 Grand Tour podiums. I think Kruijswijk's average level is closer to Mollema than it is to Uran.
The only evidence that Kruijswijk can compete with any of those guys is one race he didn't finish.
One race he probably would have won based on what happened up until then but that's history and 2017 didn't work out for him so I hope he does better next season.
 
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movingtarget said:
Zinoviev Letter said:
WheelofGear said:
Come on, Dekker_Tifosi. Kruijswijk was spectacular in the 2016 Giro but Uran has 3 Grand Tour podiums. I think Kruijswijk's average level is closer to Mollema than it is to Uran.
The only evidence that Kruijswijk can compete with any of those guys is one race he didn't finish.
One race he probably would have won based on what happened up until then but that's history and 2017 didn't work out for him so I hope he does better next season.
He looked great, I was hoping he’d win and I also hope he shows it wasn’t a fluke in the future. But one race two years ago that he didn’t finish is not enough to rank a 30 year old rider who has two career wins with the likes of Uran, Martin, Zakarin or for that matter Yates and Mollema. Judging by their careers so far, all of them should be favorites to finish ahead of him in any race. He’s intriguing though because he has been great just often enough to show that his upper limits are much less clear than they really should be for a guy who has been around this long.
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
@WheelofGear: If Kruijswijk is anywhere near his 2016 form or end of 2015 Giro form, he is WAY stronger than Martin, Yates and even Uran. Hell, he sorely outclassed Nibali even in 2016. Ofcourse it depends on form. But to say Yates and Zakarin are clearly better is really taking it too far.
Yeah 2017 Kruijswijk didn't have it, but he never appeared to be in optimum shape due to a fall in yorkshire (giro) and illness (early vuelta).
That Giro was ridiculous. Nibali was a shadow of his 2014 or 2017 general form and still could win. Pathetic and not to be compared to anything.
 
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Yeah, that is just ridiculous.

Fuglsang was beating Porte and Froome in Dauphine. Does that mean Fuglsang is better than Porte/Froome? .. clearly not.
 
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bambino said:
Dekker_Tifosi said:
@WheelofGear: If Kruijswijk is anywhere near his 2016 form or end of 2015 Giro form, he is WAY stronger than Martin, Yates and even Uran. Hell, he sorely outclassed Nibali even in 2016. Ofcourse it depends on form. But to say Yates and Zakarin are clearly better is really taking it too far.
Yeah 2017 Kruijswijk didn't have it, but he never appeared to be in optimum shape due to a fall in yorkshire (giro) and illness (early vuelta).
That Giro was ridiculous. Nibali was a shadow of his 2014 or 2017 general form and still could win. Pathetic and not to be compared to anything.
Yeah Nibali was ordinary in the 2017 Giro but much worse in 2016. That's why I though SK had the race sewn up until the fall. But the injuries definitely effected SK in 2017. Be interesting to see if Fuglsang can do another good Dauphine next season as well. I thought that was even more surprising than what SK did because like many others I thought Porte had the race sorted but that's Porte, finding ways to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory !
 
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his support in the Tour to be Lars Boom, Robert Gesink, Dylan Groenewegen, Primož Roglič, Timo Roosen + 2 from Stef Clement, Tom Leezer, Paul Martens & Amund Grøndahl Jansen
 
So, I just noticed Kruijswijk got through the first week pretty much unharmed and finished in the first group in the first mountain stage. Not saying he will win this tour, but the last time he was looking as good early in a gt was the giro 2016, so maybe the shape is back. Maybe a decent bet for a top five overall in Paris?
 
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So, I just noticed Kruijswijk got through the first week pretty much unharmed and finished in the first group in the first mountain stage. Not saying he will win this tour, but the last time he was looking as good early in a gt was the giro 2016, so maybe the shape is back. Maybe a decent bet for a top five overall in Paris?
Not looking bad. I wonder how his flat TT is though, the one in the Giro was a mountain TT which is where he gained even more time on Nibali at the time.
 
Yeah he gained 2 minutes there, but Nibali was on a really bad day obviously.

If he's anywhere near 2016 Giro mountain form than LottoNL is going to be good with him and Roglic. However, I think he'll most likely end up in 6-10 group
 
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