Steven Kruijswijk

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You're within striking distance of the race leader, an immensely talented but as of yet unproven youngster, and you don't try anything. That's just sad.
 
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hrotha said:
You're within striking distance of the race leader, an immensely talented but as of yet unproven youngster, and you don't try anything. That's just sad.
Very disappointing, but he got his podium. So there's that....
 
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roundabout said:
1:23 is hardly striking distance on a single climb 2 hour stage
It was feasible if they could get him to crack (hence the "unproven" bit), but regardless, it's not like Kruijswijk rode for the yellow jersey at any point in the race.
 
Feb 20, 2012
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I cannot stress how unrealistic cracking Bernal was.

Difference between the podium and no podium was the TTT for Kruijswijk
 
Jun 7, 2010
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It's more disappointing how he let Bernal go yesterday and then the gap kept steady at 15 seconds for quite a long time
 
Apr 15, 2016
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He didn't ride for the win at any point in the race. In fact I don't think he deserved the podium either. Bernal, Alaphilippe and Pinot were the ones most deserving imo. Hell, even Thomas attacked more than Kruijswijk. :eek:
 
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Forever The Best said:
He didn't ride for the win at any point in the race. In fact I don't think he deserved the podium either. Bernal, Alaphilippe and Pinot were the ones most deserving imo. Hell, even Thomas attacked more than Kruijswijk. :eek:
Yeah but he could only lose the podium to Buchmann and that would have been even worse.
 
Jun 1, 2015
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Congrats to him for getting a podium. Losing that Giro the way he did was tragic.

Not surprised he thought Bernal was out of range (he was), but to not even try to get 14 seconds on Thomas? I think we learned that Bernal is ready to start the future now, and #2-3 are meant to be superdoms, not leaders. Kruijswijk will make a great dom for Dumoulin.
 
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VayaVayaVaya said:
Congrats to him for getting a podium. Losing that Giro the way he did was tragic.

Not surprised he thought Bernal was out of range (he was), but to not even try to get 14 seconds on Thomas? I think we learned that Bernal is ready to start the future now, and #2-3 are meant to be superdoms, not leaders. Kruijswijk will make a great dom for Dumoulin.

you mean Roglic
 
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hrotha said:
Forever The Best said:
He didn't ride for the win at any point in the race. In fact I don't think he deserved the podium either. Bernal, Alaphilippe and Pinot were the ones most deserving imo. Hell, even Thomas attacked more than Kruijswijk. :eek:
Yeah but he could only lose the podium to Buchmann and that would have been even worse.
Yes, I was rooting for Alaphilippe to hang on for Kruijswijk and Buchmann to finish outside the podium. When he cracked I thought 'Well, Kruijswijk is at least a proven GT rider so I prefer him to Buchmann'. And Buchmann's riding today proved that he deserved it even less, which is quite an achievement itself.
 
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hrotha said:
Forever The Best said:
He didn't ride for the win at any point in the race. In fact I don't think he deserved the podium either. Bernal, Alaphilippe and Pinot were the ones most deserving imo. Hell, even Thomas attacked more than Kruijswijk. :eek:
Yeah but he could only lose the podium to Buchmann and that would have been even worse.
He counter attacked Thomas on Iseran and slightly gapped him, despite having zero kick!
 
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hrotha said:
Forever The Best said:
He didn't ride for the win at any point in the race. In fact I don't think he deserved the podium either. Bernal, Alaphilippe and Pinot were the ones most deserving imo. Hell, even Thomas attacked more than Kruijswijk. :eek:
Yeah but he could only lose the podium to Buchmann and that would have been even worse.
Much, much, much worse....
 
topt said:
VayaVayaVaya said:
Congrats to him for getting a podium. Losing that Giro the way he did was tragic.

Not surprised he thought Bernal was out of range (he was), but to not even try to get 14 seconds on Thomas? I think we learned that Bernal is ready to start the future now, and #2-3 are meant to be superdoms, not leaders. Kruijswijk will make a great dom for Dumoulin.

you mean Roglic

Imagine they enter all 3 for next years Tour, to seriously rival Ineos for dominance :cool:

It's not gonna happen, but what a race it would be, with Froome, Thomas & Bernal, against Roglic, Dumoulin & Kruijswijk :p
 
Broccolidwarf said:
topt said:
VayaVayaVaya said:
Congrats to him for getting a podium. Losing that Giro the way he did was tragic.

Not surprised he thought Bernal was out of range (he was), but to not even try to get 14 seconds on Thomas? I think we learned that Bernal is ready to start the future now, and #2-3 are meant to be superdoms, not leaders. Kruijswijk will make a great dom for Dumoulin.

you mean Roglic

Imagine they enter all 3 for next years Tour, to seriously rival Ineos for dominance :cool:

It's not gonna happen, but what a race it would be, with Froome, Thomas & Bernal, against Roglic, Dumoulin & Kruijswijk :p
That's if Froome's even on the team next season. There's a lot of pain and suffering ahead for CF between now and Tour 2020. I hope he makes it back in time at a good level but it's going to be a monumental ask.
 
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Forever The Best said:
hrotha said:
Forever The Best said:
He didn't ride for the win at any point in the race. In fact I don't think he deserved the podium either. Bernal, Alaphilippe and Pinot were the ones most deserving imo. Hell, even Thomas attacked more than Kruijswijk. :eek:
Yeah but he could only lose the podium to Buchmann and that would have been even worse.
Yes, I was rooting for Alaphilippe to hang on for Kruijswijk and Buchmann to finish outside the podium. When he cracked I thought 'Well, Kruijswijk is at least a proven GT rider so I prefer him to Buchmann'. And Buchmann's riding today proved that he deserved it even less, which is quite an achievement itself.

A proven GT rider and an unproven GT rider who both tried to play it as safe as possible, yet one was worse than the other. Go figure.
 
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No, Kruijswijk was less bad than Buchmann because he did attack once or twice and he used his team aggressively another couple of times.
 
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hrotha said:
No, Kruijswijk was less bad than Buchmann because he did attack once or twice and he used his team aggressively another couple of times.

Rider with stronger team used his team aggressively. Seems like a rather strange argument, but ok.

And do you also count an attack when the less bad rider was behind a more bad one?