Stomach bugs

[the big ring]

I wonder if "stomach bugs" have any impact on blood work.

 

[thehog]

Lol
Well, poor Wiggo. It's never called 'the flu' or 'caught a cold' or anything like the rest of us get is it?

'stomach bug' kinda covers everything I think...I guess...

Tyler had a stomach bug at the 2004 Vuelta.

Happens when you drink a load of water then force yourself to vomit everything you've digested in the last glow period.

 

[The Hitch]

I really doubt wiggins is doping for the Tour of Britain.

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

Addition by subtraction = extraction time.

I think in the Puerto files one of the doping plans involved extracting blood during ****ty little races and then you re-inject it for an important race. I think the rider involved when people checked back had withdrawn from said ****ty race claiming a 'stomach bug'. (Hamilton maybe?)

 

[JimmyFingers]

if any of you were bothering watching the race you'd know its a decent competition this year. JTL leading now, big prospect for British cycling so no doubt he'll have his own thread here soon, particularly as he's joining Sky next season. Got a lot of style on the bike too

But don't let me interrupt the Brit bashing. Bradley dropped out, must be doping of course. Nothing to do with making sure he's ready for the Worlds

 

[sigreg]

But don't let me interrupt the Brit bashing. Bradley dropped out, must be doping of course. Nothing to do with making sure he's ready for the Worlds

He could also just have a stomach bug.
It's a shame that the conclusion that some people always come to is doping.

 

[simo1733]

I've read for years that elite-level athletes have weakened immune systems from the stress of racing, and the traveling, etc. --is there any proof of this? I think it likely that the opposite is true, and that they would have stronger immune systems than the average schmuck --but I've seen no research.
I can appreciate the fact that they are exposed to germs in ways non-athletes aren't.

They would have a stronger immune system when rested but a weak immune system when tired.
Even amateur racers tend to get infections during periods of intense training/Racing.

 

[Roland Rat]

I really doubt wiggins is doping for the Tour of Britain.

Yeah, attempts to link this to doping are laughable. If it is a cover story, it's more likely to mean "hangover".

 

[Wallace and Gromit]

Yeah, attempts to link this to doping are laughable. If it is a cover story, it's more likely to mean "hangover".

Hangover seems the most likely explanation at this stage of the season, particularly as it was on the overnight stop closest to the comforts of home!

In terms of real ailments, I would guess that pro cyclists, like all pro sportsmen have something wrong with them all the time. They work through it in the build up to and execution of major events, but not during minor events as there's no benefit.

Footballers who pull out of friendlies they don't want to play have to pass a medical to confirm they are genuinely ill or injured. And they always are, yet for major matches, they will try and play even if they are at death's door.

 

[JimmyFingers]

Another ****ty stage, on ****ty roads, a ****ty parcours, ****ty weather and ****ty scenery

All the things today's race wasn't

Brad said before the ToB he was entering it as a domestique, to support other rieders that had helped him throughout the season. he was never trying to contest the GC win, no it should be no big deal that he has dropped out. Sky got themselves into a right old mess really, the original plan being for Rowe to go for the overall, then Cav reluctantly got himself into the leader's jersey, only to get gapped the next day in crosswinds and a couple of Cat 2 climbs.

At that point their entire race fell apart, with only Knees remaining in contention for the overall. It was Brad's chance to repay the support he has got from the fans and the team, but I assume the decision was made if he was ill to pull him out to save him for the Worlds. No drama, no dark conspiracy, no vomiting to purge himself during glowtime, no nonsense.

Again this place embarrassed itself

 

[Cycle Chic]

Another ****ty stage, on ****ty roads, a ****ty parcours, ****ty weather and ****ty scenery

All the things today's race wasn't

Brad said before the ToB he was entering it as a domestique, to support other rieders that had helped him throughout the season. he was never trying to contest the GC win, no it should be no big deal that he has dropped out. Sky got themselves into a right old mess really, the original plan being for Rowe to go for the overall, then Cav reluctantly got himself into the leader's jersey, only to get gapped the next day in crosswinds and a couple of Cat 2 climbs.

At that point their entire race fell apart, with only Knees remaining in contention for the overall. It was Brad's chance to repay the support he has got from the fans and the team, but I assume the decision was made if he was ill to pull him out to save him for the Worlds. No drama, no dark conspiracy, no vomiting to purge himself during glowtime, no nonsense.

Again this place embarrassed itself

Ha ha - nothing to do with Tiernan-Lock joining SKY next season....not good publicity for their new signing - durrrrrrrrr.

It reminds me of Russell Downing winning the TOB...and whadda yer know he then signs for SKY. The only difference is this time Lance isnt there giving Downing the thumbs up.

 

[JimmyFingers]

Ha ha - nothing to do with Tiernan-Lock joining SKY next season....not good publicity for their new signing - durrrrrrrrr.

What on earth are you talking about?

 

[Cycle Chic]

What on earth are you talking about?

its called sarcasm

 

[JimmyFingers]

I would call it incoherent, sarcastic or not.You mean Sky didn't want to win the race with Rowe, or Knees for that matter?

 

[the big ring]

It's been pointed out to me team doctors can't prevent riders from getting sick, and here we see it's the riders themselves that do it:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/magner-earns-first-pro-win-at-tour-of-china

Magner previously rode the Tour of China in 2011 as a stagiaire for US-based Pro Continental squad Team Type 1 but fell sick and suffered through the UCI 2.1-ranked stage race. This time around, however, he drew on his past experience to stay healthy and showed his cards first on stage 3, where he finished second to Team Type 1-Sanofi sprinter Aldo Ino Ilesic.

If only these other professional riders had past experience to draw on. They too, could stay healthy.

 

[function]

They would have a stronger immune system when rested but a weak immune system when tired.
Even amateur racers tend to get infections during periods of intense training/Racing.

+1 To add to your fatigue case, even amateur racers (or just riders) know the feeling of when you're hitting peak form and have a niggling cough/sickness creeping up.

 

[LauraLyn]

I was at Caerphilly on Friday for the Tour of Wales. Most people seemed to think that Brad really wasn't feeling well. But people also seemed to feel he might be saving himself now for the World Championships in Maastricht.

 

[hiero2]

Yeah, attempts to link this to doping are laughable. If it is a cover story, it's more likely to mean "hangover".

I've read for years that elite-level athletes have weakened immune systems from the stress of racing, and the traveling, etc. --is there any proof of this? I think it likely that the opposite is true, and that they would have stronger immune systems than the average schmuck --but I've seen no research.
I can appreciate the fact that they are exposed to germs in ways non-athletes aren't.

I remember when I was at my peak - and it surprised me then, how delicate my system became! I was actually MORE prone to a cold, a flu bug, diarrhea, all that nasty stuff! I have traveled outside the country for many years, so I had previously seen how just eating something different, and drinking water from a different source, could lead to diarrhea and stomach upset. And all THAT leads then to feeling generally s***ty and all that flu-like stuff. And being weak. Or at least not having your normal levels of energy and willingness to be a Jens Voigt copycat!

All the stories about the Tour tell us that the hotels and meals are not primo. Sometimes they are not segundo. Sometimes the food and water rate a "C" or worse. Ok, so then is it so hard to imagine this today?

Hangover I can believe. I know hangovers were responsible for a lot of the "stomach upset" I have seen traveling to Mexico and Russia.

 

[42x16ss]

It's been pointed out to me team doctors can't prevent riders from getting sick, and here we see it's the riders themselves that do it:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/magner-earns-first-pro-win-at-tour-of-china


If only these other professional riders had past experience to draw on. They too, could stay healthy.

Hmm, this came about in the Tour of China, not a Grand Tour or Classics time when the big names DO go out of their way to manage and ride through illness or injury simply for the prestige of finishing or to assist team mates.

Lesser known riders may do all they can to manage their way through races like ToB but GT winners/contenders don't consider it worth the risk. Surely you can wrap your heads around that.

 

[42x16ss]

All the stories about the Tour tell us that the hotels and meals are not primo. Sometimes they are not segundo. Sometimes the food and water rate a "C" or worse. Ok, so then is it so hard to imagine this today?

That's right. Why else do teams go to the trouble of getting a chef on the team for extended periods on the road, as well as going out of their way to procure their own food. When all of your meals are being prepared in hotel kitchens, by caterers more concerned with meeting demand than meeting the teams needs it's a matter of time before there are cases of food reactions or intolerences.

It's surprising how no one picked up on the comments of a forumite with current first hand experience of traveling and racing (131313) and continued on with the conspiracy theories

 

[JeffreyPerry]

All the stories about the Tour tell us that the hotels and meals are not primo. Sometimes they are not segundo. Sometimes the food and water rate a "C" or worse. Ok, so then is it so hard to imagine this today?

Hangover I can believe. I know hangovers were responsible for a lot of the "stomach upset" I have seen traveling to Mexico and Russia.

Load of Doo-Doo. If I can get bottled water and decent food in Afghanistan and Iraq, then they sure can get a good meal (provided by paid chefs!!) in a European hotel in the biggest race in cycling.

 

[the big ring]

Load of Doo-Doo. If I can get bottled water and decent food in Afghanistan and Iraq, then they sure can get a good meal (provided by paid chefs!!) in a European hotel in the biggest race in cycling.

No, only Sky can do that.

 

[131313]

Load of Doo-Doo. If I can get bottled water and decent food in Afghanistan and Iraq, then they sure can get a good meal (provided by paid chefs!!) in a European hotel in the biggest race in cycling.

"can" and "do" are totally different things. The reality is that the food is often horrible, particularly in France.

 

[the big ring]

"can" and "do" are totally different things. The reality is that the food is often horrible, particularly in France.

Which seems weird, because the local Casino (Coles / Safeway equivalent) I visited for 10 weeks had great food.

 

[GreasyMonkey]

"Stomach Bugs"

After reading Tyler Hamilton's book, I am starting to see "stomach bug" as code for a "bad blood bag".....