Swimming

[BullsFan22]

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Katie Ledecky- absolutely crazy performances yet again. Not even worth running the races she just freaking annihilates the field without even looking remotely tired afterwards. One of the most suspicious athletes currently competing in any sport.

She maybe doping and her performances might be suspicious but there's no denying the immense talent she has.

At the age of 15, she won the 800 m Gold at the Beijing Olympics. Not only that but she has annihilated record after record since High School. She will most probably become the most decorated female olympian in the history of Olympic Sport.

I agree, just a correction though, it was the 800m in London 2012 that she won as a 15 year old, not Beijing. She was 11 in 2008!! Had she made the Olympics and won at the age of 11....the Olympics would have been shut down completely!! LOL

 

[May0maniac]

And the freaking Pellegrini beat her, her time wasn't full ***, but I just dislike her.
I have to say that the 800m was great to watch and Detti took it to the next level, new European record and he beat his training buddy Paltrinieri.
At least both Detti and Paltrinieri aren't as bad a Horton, after the Olympics Paltrinieri said that Horton took it too far when it came to Sun Yang, that was pretty much his was of telling him that you shouldn't be such a hypocrit. Today Detti said that Sun Yang got banned, but that now he should be viewed like everyone else, he even said that he's a nice guy.
Maybe it's not the best thing for anti doping, but at least they aren't like the Anglos who only cry about the bad Russian and Chinese dopers, their old school mentality is almost refreshing and at least to me it reeks less of hypocrisy.

 

[BullsFan22]

See, swimming is cleaning their sport up! A guy nobody's heard of was busted. I am sure everyone else is clean though!

http://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1053422/naidich-withdraws-from-fina-world-championships-after-positive-drugs-test

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Sad news RIP
Mattia Dall’Aglio - Italian swimmer 24ys old - so young for a heart attack
Reported in Italian here:
http://corrieredibologna.corriere.it/bologna/notizie/altrosport/2017/7-agosto-2017/mattia-dall-aglio-muore-palestra-modena-si-stava-allenando-solo-2401885751204.shtml

 

[sniper]

Travis Tygart in trouble for helping to cover up sexual abuse among US swimming coaches.
https://t.co/jH6qsGKmI8

 

[BullsFan22]

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Travis Tygart in trouble for helping to cover up sexual abuse among US swimming coaches.
https://t.co/jH6qsGKmI8

No wonder he is so vocal about this Russian doping thing. He's hoping that it will override the covering up of the sexual abuse. And what about the Nassar abuse at US Gymnastics??

 

[yaco]

So both Tygart head of USADA and Young who wrote the WADA code and prosecutes on behalf of CAS have in effect lead double lives. Bellotti is running out of heroes.

 

[yaco]

So no interest in discussing the miscalculations of Tygart and Young who are the bastions of the WADA code and it's application.strange indeed.

 

[veganrob]

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So both Tygart head of USADA and Young who wrote the WADA code and prosecutes on behalf of CAS have in effect lead double lives. Bellotti is running out of heroes.

I don't think Tygart is a hero of anybody in the clinic

 

[yaco]

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So both Tygart head of USADA and Young who wrote the WADA code and prosecutes on behalf of CAS have in effect lead double lives. Bellotti is running out of heroes.

I don't think Tygart is a hero of anybody in the clinic

Only have to read the Armstrong thread to prove my assertion. I love it when the zealots from the Clinic see their heroes cut down one by one. These allegations against Tygart and Young are more serious than any doping offence. Integrity from key officials is a non-negotiable.

 

[Irondan]

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So both Tygart head of USADA and Young who wrote the WADA code and prosecutes on behalf of CAS have in effect lead double lives. Bellotti is running out of heroes.

I don't think Tygart is a hero of anybody in the clinic

Only have to read the Armstrong thread to prove my assertion. I love it when the zealots from the Clinic see their heroes cut down one by one. These allegations against Tygart and Young are more serious than any doping offence. Integrity from key officials is a non-negotiable.

The Clinic is mixed with people from both ends of the anti-doping spectrum, not to mention that very few, if any are actual "zealots".

Backhanded insults do nothing to advance the discussion or your point.

 

[noddy69]

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Travis Tygart in trouble for helping to cover up sexual abuse among US swimming coaches.
https://t.co/jH6qsGKmI8

Not sure he is in trouble yet. Didn't the same publications try and highlight this back in 2014 ? I can't find any major publication going after him yet....not as if they haven't had time

 

[yaco]

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Travis Tygart in trouble for helping to cover up sexual abuse among US swimming coaches.
https://t.co/jH6qsGKmI8

Not sure he is in trouble yet. Didn't the same publications try and highlight this back in 2014 ? I can't find any major publication going after him yet....not as if they haven't had time[/quot

It may or may not happen so we'll we have to wait and see what transpires. The bigger picture is the integrity of big wigs like Tygart and Young who play key roles in the prosecution of antidoping. You can't be selective with your integrity. Finally, I suggest that events concerning sexual abuse are more serious than doping.

 

[Robert5091]

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...ming-depression-doping-micro-dosing-interview

The old curse of doping, however, remains. “I don’t want to tarnish everyone with the same brush but we’ve seen foul play with the Russians, Eastern Bloc nations and the Chinese. Once we were at a [international] camp in Australia at an outdoor pool. There were basic aluminium starting blocks and pouring rain and six athletes swam 3.44 or faster for 400 freestyle. It’s impossible.

“My opinion is it’s still a huge issue today. Micro-dosing is virtually untraceable. The natural levels of testosterone have parameters so wide you can micro-dose slightly and have a huge benefit. Within 24 hours it’s gone but you benefit for three months. Undoubtedly swimming has a problem. I have no idea how you get on top of it.

“I think the way Fina have conducted themselves the last couple of years is an absolute disgrace. To see the executive director of Fina embracing Sun Yang on the poolside at the Rio Olympics? How do you tackle that? ”

Sun, the Chinese swimmer, tested positive for using the stimulant trimetazidine in 2014 before his own federation reduced his suspension to three months from a year after accepting his explanation that he had taken the drug to alleviate chest pains. At the Rio Olympics, where he won the 200m freestyle, he was accused of cheating by some of his rivals owing to the controversy surrounding his ban. Sun has won three Olympic gold medals in total and his success in the pool clearly troubles Jamieson.