Ah, Van Aert.When I checked the NBA history, I didn't see Bill Russell.
I saw Boston Celtics, Los Angeles Lakers, Detroit Pistons, Chicago Bulls etc but never Bill Russell.
So perhaps he's been part of a team winning it, never won it himself, no?
Ah, Van Aert.When I checked the NBA history, I didn't see Bill Russell.
I saw Boston Celtics, Los Angeles Lakers, Detroit Pistons, Chicago Bulls etc but never Bill Russell.
So perhaps he's been part of a team winning it, never won it himself, no?
Ah, Van Aert.
Not really in competition with him.Oh, thanks for reminding me. Another part-time road cyclist as competition for Pogacar.
What a strong era...eheheh
Case solved. Movistar is the actual GOAT.Movistar have won 15 GTs throughout their history making them collectively the best rider, obviously, or bro for short.
Already was closed hereNobody will beat goat at tour , case closed
Not really in competition with him.
No one can challenge the GOAT. Hence, GOAT. Dont really matter who he is racing
Easy to answer, Pog has the best ever season. So GOAT.How are they supposed to challenge him when they are part-time?
GOAT amongst part-time road cyclists, what a great achievements.
Merckx is the GOAT against farmers, Pogacar - GOAT against part-time road riders.
Easy to answer, Pog has the best ever season. So GOAT.
Just the GOAT. One and only. Case closed.As we came to a conclusion together, only amongst part-timers. But yeah, GOAT.
He clearly didn't, see PCS.Easy to answer, Pog has the best ever season. So GOAT.
PCS dont matter at all lolHe clearly didn't, see PCS.
Context is everything. Against part-timers and former ski jumpers and football players (tell me which one isn't true?).Just the GOAT. One and only. Case closed.
Thats why he is the GOAT. He can beat everyone. Everyone who wants to race a bike. Many will try, but many will fail. Thanks for bringing that up! Proving the point furtherContext is everything. Against part-timers and former ski jumpers and football players (tell me which one isn't true?).
Case closed indeed 😊.
So does Merckx. He beats plumbers, dentists and farmers apparently. So he is the GOAT then, isn't he?Thats why he is the GOAT. He can beat everyone. Everyone who wants to race a bike. Many will try, but many will fail. Thanks for bringing that up! Proving the point further
No, no.So does Merckx. He beats plumbers, dentists and farmers apparently. So he is the GOAT then, isn't he?
Let the GOAT rest. He is already 79 years.Not really in competition with him.
No one can challenge the GOAT. Hence, GOAT. Dont really matter who he is racing
Thats old for a goat.Let the GOAT rest. He is already 79 years.
He was racing against some amateur riders. Farmers is obviously to mock some of his competition (even if some of those were really farmers), but most riders were amateurs or part time road cyclists so who was a professional rider had a big advantage (larger than nowadays).
In this era everyone is a professional rider which are very good news for us (cycling fans).
It is impossible to discuss something when some of your don't even recognize this era is stronger and more homogeneous than 50 years ago. Different times but cycling grew a lot since the 90s and thanks god everyone has the opportunity to be professional now.
Merckx is the GOAT due to his palmares being way bigger than Pogacar but it is obvious he won what he won due to be a cyclist in the 70s. Nowadays he would probably not achieve half of his wins and probably not win a single GT since he wasn't the best climber.
No mate. A rider like WVA would be a multiple GT and classics winner in the 70s. But nowadays, he is a "specialist" in cobbled classics despite being a good all around. However in this era, he can only fight for wins in cobbled classics (or races like MSR). He can't win Gts or hilly classics like LBL or GdL but I strongly believe he could do that in the 70s. Specialization is a proof how cycling has becoming harder and better.How can you claim that this era is stronger when a ski jumper turns into cycling in his mid 20s and becomes a multiple GT winner?
You have more riders and more nations competing, that's true, but that's not a proof for a stronger era.
Riders turning to cycling from other sports and starting to win, however, makes you ask how strong the era actually is?
(both of these are legit questions)
And then you can bring the argument that riders nowadays can't compete in GTs and cobbled classics (except for Pogacar) and you can conclude, based on everything above, that today's era is actually weak in competition.
See how twisted can the "weak era" argument can be and how it can work in both directions?
No mate. A rider like WVA would be a multiple GT and classics winner in the 70s. But nowadays, he is a "specialist" in cobbled classics despite being a good all around. However in this era, he can only fight for wins in cobbled classics (or races like MSR). He can't win Gts or hilly classics like LBL or GdL but I strongly believe he could do that in the 70s. Specialization is a proof how cycling has becoming harder and better.
But let's move on, this is pointless. You will never agree with me.
 
		
		 
		
		 
		
		 
		
		
 
				
		