Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Oldman]

Roglic is not attempting Giro-Tour, he is trying to win the Giro because he is too far behind Vingegaard and Pogacar. He had by far the best preparation last year and still was miles behind in every mountain/hilly stage.

You mean the Tour where he was crashed out by some douche' jumping a median...that one?
I recall him dieselling a serious climb, Pogi had dropped Jonas and Roglic went through Remco and Jonas on the descent. Not miles, not behind. Pogacar; that's a different story.

I agree he will be trying to win the Giro. If he's intact after that we'll see what Jonas can do for 3 weeks. Last time around he couldn't manage it. Remco is also in recovery mode and only the blind faithful will suggest he'll be fighting it out at this point in time.
Pogacar is dominant in not losing months of time to injuries. The rest of these guys have lost a season or two for recovery; so let's factor that into the fan's shallow reality of today's actual competitors.

 

[scribers]

Three great tp races were in losses. Tragic and heroic all at once. 2023 WC, 2025 MSR. 2025 P-R

Also like the odd race where tp and Novak hide in bushes and charged back up on the peloton from behind

 

[Peyroteo94]

In Roubaix VDP is the favorite, but Pogi is close enough that any incident, and Pogi becomes the most likely winner.

They were a lot closer from what results showed. And next year, Pogacar will be very close to win.

 

[Peyroteo94]

You mean the Tour where he was crashed out by some douche' jumping a median...that one?
I recall him dieselling a serious climb, Pogi had dropped Jonas and Roglic went through Remco and Jonas on the descent. Not miles, not behind. Pogacar; that's a different story.

I agree he will be trying to win the Giro. If he's intact after that we'll see what Jonas can do for 3 weeks. Last time around he couldn't manage it. Remco is also in recovery mode and only the blind faithful will suggest he'll be fighting it out at this point in time.
Pogacar is dominant in not losing months of time to injuries. The rest of these guys have lost a season or two for recovery; so let's factor that into the fan's shallow reality of today's actual competitors.

Roglic is miles behind Jonas right now. Last year, he was dropped in a climb tailormade for him (San Luca). Galibier the same, gravel stage, etc. I'm not underestimating Roglic at all, he still is the third best GT rider in the world (even if Remco seemed stronger in the Tour) but there is a massive gap between Roglic and Vingegaard/Pogacar.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Three great tp races were in losses. Tragic and heroic all at once. 2023 WC, 2025 MSR. 2025 P-R

Also like the odd race where tp and Novak hide in bushes and charged back up on the peloton from behind

His participation in Glasgow was tough to watch. He was suffering to follow Pedersen and WVA in climbs, very far from his best shape. Maybe he was competitive only because it was raining a lot.

 

[Peyroteo94]

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[YavorD]

He is not comparing eras though, he is comparing palmares.
Comparing eras would be "Pogacar would've won much more against Merckx' rivals/Merckx would be so much better on 2025 aero bikes...."

 

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The one week tallies for both are interesting as it shows that it has always been very hard to combine the spring classics with Itzulia/Catalunya/Romandie.

 

[Peyroteo94]

The one week tallies for both are interesting as it shows that it has always been very hard to combine the spring classics with Itzulia/Catalunya/Romandie.

One week stage races are not that prestigious. We look to monuments, worlds and GTs to assess a rider's legacy.