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I don't even believe he will be better than Yates.
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That would be a huge blow for Ayuso.

I think Adam started a slight decline in level last year.
He had a good Tour, but not as good as the previous year, and in the Vuelta, he was far from fighting for the GC.

I don't think Yates be a rival for Roglic in the Giro. And he is worse in ITT than Ayuso. If he finishes better than Ayuso by doing worse ITT, it would be a huge blow for Ayuso.

I think Ayuso's favoritism over Roglic is being exaggerated, but I think he'll be better than Yates this year, from whom I think we'll no longer see his best in GT.
 
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That would be a huge blow for Ayuso.

I think Adam started a slight decline in level last year.
He had a good Tour, but not as good as the previous year, and in the Vuelta, he was far from fighting for the GC.

I don't think Yates be a rival for Roglic in the Giro. And he is worse in ITT than Ayuso. If he finishes better than Ayuso by doing worse ITT, it would be a huge blow for Ayuso.

I think Ayuso's favoritism over Roglic is being exaggerated, but I think he'll be better than Yates this year, from whom I think we'll no longer see his best in GT.
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I think he was downplaying his chances.
 
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Peyroteo94 said:
And? 3 years after his breakthrough in the Vuelta, he needs to step up. He is young but he needs to show he is good enough in GTs.
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You just need to relax.

He has showed he is good enough in them already and have great potential to win one in the future. Better prospects than many others as of now.

He is still only 22. Plenty of time left for him.

Pog, Vinge, Roglic and maybe Remco are right now very hard to beat. They wont be around forever though.

Ayuso has already won some big races. His time will likely come and he is on a long contract for one of the best teams around.

Saying he is screwed just seems very overdramatic.
 
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You just need to relax.

He has showed he is good enough in them already and have great potential to win one in the future. Better prospects than many others as of now.

He is still only 22. Plenty of time left for him.

Pog, Vinge, Roglic and maybe Remco are right now very hard to beat. They wont be around forever though.

Ayuso has already won some big races. His time will likely come and he is on a long contract for one of the best teams around.

Saying he is screwed just seems very overdramatic.
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I'm very relaxed. Probably it is my wishful thinking talking but I think he will fail in the high mountains.
 
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Salvarani said:
No worries. It is very possible that could happen. Either way, he is not screwed. It would be too early to say that, whatever your views are on him. Hey... maybe he will get a new coach in the future, eh? ;)
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He is screwed inside UAE if he doesn't perform well in this Giro (not top3). Almeida looks better than ever and will demand leadership in the Giro next year.
 
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He is screwed inside UAE if he doesn't perform well in this Giro (not top3). Almeida looks better than ever and will demand leadership in the Giro next year.
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Honestly, with regard to the Tour and Pogacar, it doesn't matter what happens in the Giro.
The only thing is that Yates doesn't have any accidents and arrives in good shape at the Tour.

Last year, UAE failed in the GC at the Vuelta. That didn't affect Pogacar at all.
 
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You just need to relax.

He has showed he is good enough in them already and have great potential to win one in the future. Better prospects than many others as of now.

He is still only 22. Plenty of time left for him.

Pog, Vinge, Roglic and maybe Remco are right now very hard to beat. They wont be around forever though.

Ayuso has already won some big races. His time will likely come and he is on a long contract for one of the best teams around.

Saying he is screwed just seems very overdramatic.
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He actually only won Basque 2024 (where everyone crashed) and T-A 2025 without big 4. So i wouldn't call those races big but IF-it was really with bad competition. So i don't see where does this agenda "he is a winner" is coming from. Also if he doesn't win Giro, he will not win anything relevant this year. Next year he will already be 23.. Also Pogacar, Vingegard and Remco are not going anywhere next 5 years and they will try to race 2GC per year.
 
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Honestly, with regard to the Tour and Pogacar, it doesn't matter what happens in the Giro.
The only thing is that Yates doesn't have any accidents and arrives in good shape at the Tour.

Last year, UAE failed in the GC at the Vuelta. That didn't affect Pogacar at all.
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He will arrive in good shape. Like I already told you, he just needs to be good in 5 stages and his Tour will only start on July 17th. Almost 7 weeks after this Giro.
 
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He actually only won Basque 2024 (where everyone crashed) and T-A 2025 without big 4. So i wouldn't call those races big but IF-it was really with bad competition. So i don't see where does this agenda "he is a winner" is coming from. Also if he doesn't win Giro, he will not win anything relevant this year. Next year he will already be 23.. Also Pogacar, Vingegard and Remco are not going anywhere next 5 years and they will try to race 2GC per year.
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Yes, he was extremely lucky to win PV and his TA win was against a weak field in a very underwhelming route. Ganna was second...
 
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This is coming from a former cyclist on a team that dominated the GTs. Were he worried about the Vuelta's audience in 2023 when they decided not to compete?

The hatred that Visma has for Pogacar is insane.

Pogacar sees them as rivals, but I've never heard him say anything like this about Visma.
However, this isn't the first time several Visma cyclists have said something bad about him.

At Visma, they don't know how to win (what they said about FDJ and the beers, or how the others weren't doing their jobs well), and they don't know how to lose either.

It's very toxic to experience a rivalry like this. It doesn't surprise me that Vingegaard might be mentally burned out with teammates who talk about a rival all the time in an unhealthy way.
It's not healthy to experience sport or rivalry like this. This isn't the first time they've spewed hate to Pogacar. This comment from a fellow professional is very toxic.




https://twitter.com/x/status/1919474742009929757
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