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Krzysztof_O said:
They want to break Teddy mentally but the effect could be opposite.
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Are you saying they want to break him mentally. With a rider who literally cried to the organizers because he wanted a stage in Paris-Nice canceled due to moderate rain(stage before crash), as opposed to a guy who rides Roubaix for the giggles and fun?

At least its borderline hillarious to read:tearsofjoy:
 
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Gratemans said:
Over in the Roglic thread it's the whole world against Roglic. Here it's the organisers trying to break Pogacar because of the route (??)
Haven't read the Remco and Jonas threads yet, but I can't wait to read the conspiracy theories they got going over there 😂
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Not really, Rogla is fine and happy with the Tour route and position being in, stars aligned. People obsessed with Pogi and Jonas, in their eyes some weird *** is currently ongoing. Affecting directly mostly them.
 
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Peyroteo94 said:
All this confidence of Vingegaard and Remco looks bulls#it to me. Can't wait for Combloux.
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The interview below with Pog is good, same channel has interviews with other riders including Remco. All the stuff I have watched and read have nobody expressing over confidence. All top guys are very measured in what they are doing, so getting dropped might be bad but not winning the race is not significant in their words. Remco sounds like if he can climb with best 5 riders and loses, no big deal, TDF is the end game. I enjoy hearing the riders speak because you see that they are not arrogant, instead looking for measurements to see where they are compared to each other.
 
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Unchained said:
The interview below with Pog is good, same channel has interviews with other riders including Remco. All the stuff I have watched and read have nobody expressing over confidence. All top guys are very measured in what they are doing, so getting dropped might be bad but not winning the race is not significant in their words. Remco sounds like if he can climb with best 5 riders and loses, no big deal, TDF is the end game. I enjoy hearing the riders speak because you see that they are not arrogant, instead looking for measurements to see where they are compared to each other.
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In those same "measurements" the game is rigged. Let them race without data and see if that has an effect. I mean, pretty soon, microchips shall be implanted and then it becomes a video game.
 
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Extinction said:
In those same "measurements" the game is rigged. Let them race without data and see if that has an effect. I mean, pretty soon, microchips shall be implanted and then it becomes a video game.
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I think you are saying something that many people want, but it's going in the other direction and remember that wearables are going to up the game again.
When UCI gets paid enough wearable glucose monitors are going to be big,
Del Toro bonking was textbook example. Once teams can monitor sugar levels in real time they will be custom feeding each rider..grams of carbs have changed everything.. I was given books by Jeff Pierce, Thomas Prehn , Eddie B, and others,
I would bet that most of the information would be considered completely wrong in today's bike racing environment. LSD( long steady distance) are something that still resembles zone 2 training., but almost nothing else. Chris Carmichael, Time Crunched Cyclist or e-books by Floyd Landis coach Dr. Arnie Baker all had versions of modern training. I personally think modern technology has given people a chance, stuff you had to learn by going on group rides, training and regular races can be done by many alone, I never thought riding slow would make you fast.
.these modern technology breakthroughs are pretty awesome!!
Your observation about implanting microchips was proposed by US government employee, Elon Musk..
Coming to a bike race near you....!
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UK2jumNXsT0&pp=ygUfSW1wbGFudGluZyBtaWNyb2NoaXBzIGluIGh1bWFucw%3D%3D
 
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Unchained said:
I think you are saying something that many people want, but it's going in the other direction and remember that wearables are going to up the game again.
When UCI gets paid enough wearable glucose monitors are going to be big,
Del Toro bonking was textbook example. Once teams can monitor sugar levels in real time they will be custom feeding each rider..grams of carbs have changed everything.. I was given books by Jeff Pierce, Thomas Prehn , Eddie B, and others,
I would bet that most of the information would be considered completely wrong in today's bike racing environment. LSD( long steady distance) are something that still resembles zone 2 training., but almost nothing else. Chris Carmichael, Time Crunched Cyclist or e-books by Floyd Landis coach Dr. Arnie Baker all had versions of modern training. I personally think modern technology has given people a chance, stuff you had to learn by going on group rides, training and regular races can be done by many alone, I never thought riding slow would make you fast.
.these modern technology breakthroughs are pretty awesome!!
Your observation about implanting microchips was proposed by US government employee, Elon Musk..
Coming to a bike race near you....!
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UK2jumNXsT0&pp=ygUfSW1wbGFudGluZyBtaWNyb2NoaXBzIGluIGh1bWFucw%3D%3D
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LSD is a trip, by contrast zone two means you are constantly on the edge between comfort and discomfort, pushing less than you can, but more than you want to. Works charms, if you are already in good shape.
 
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Unchained said:
The interview below with Pog is good, same channel has interviews with other riders including Remco. All the stuff I have watched and read have nobody expressing over confidence. All top guys are very measured in what they are doing, so getting dropped might be bad but not winning the race is not significant in their words. Remco sounds like if he can climb with best 5 riders and loses, no big deal, TDF is the end game. I enjoy hearing the riders speak because you see that they are not arrogant, instead looking for measurements to see where they are compared to each other.
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Sometimes they say arrogant things but I think it's because they don't want to look defeated.
 
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Peyroteo94 said:
Sometimes they say arrogant things but I think it's because they don't want to look defeated.
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Certainly everyone sees things differently, I watched Pogacar and Remco interviews pre Dauphine, and they both struck me as grounded.
And I like that each rider has multiple years of comparison data, all riders that I have read or watched videos , all say that they are at their better levels than years previous.
I am super excited to see them test each other.. Wish it could have been Giro!!
 
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