Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[scribers]

My numbers could be better in all facets

 

[James M]

They want to break Teddy mentally but the effect could be opposite.

Are you saying they want to break him mentally. With a rider who literally cried to the organizers because he wanted a stage in Paris-Nice canceled due to moderate rain(stage before crash), as opposed to a guy who rides Roubaix for the giggles and fun?

At least its borderline hillarious to read

 

[No Excuses]

They want to break Teddy mentally but the effect could be opposite.

It will be the poggenheimer redemption tour.
I hope he takes those stages like a cannibal

 

[AmRacer]

It will be the poggenheimer redemption tour.
I hope he takes those stages like a cannibal

Cav should be nervous Pogi will break his record any year now.

 

[Peyroteo94]

All this confidence of Vingegaard and Remco looks *** to me. Can't wait for Combloux.

 

[Peyroteo94]

"Remco is flying", "Remco is doing more km and hours than us", "I'm better than Pogacar in one area". I'm not buying this and they will probably get a reality check in less than 7 days.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Over in the Roglic thread it's the whole world against Roglic. Here it's the organisers trying to break Pogacar because of the route (??)
Haven't read the Remco and Jonas threads yet, but I can't wait to read the conspiracy theories they got going over there 😂

Not really, Rogla is fine and happy with the Tour route and position being in, stars aligned. People obsessed with Pogi and Jonas, in their eyes some weird *** is currently ongoing. Affecting directly mostly them.

 

[AmRacer]

Not really, Rogla is fine and happy with the Tour route and position being in, stars aligned. People obsessed with Pogi and Jonas, in their eyes some weird *** is currently ongoing. Affecting directly mostly them.

FYI, people obsessed with Rogla will soon get a reality check when he doesn't win the Tour.

 

[Froome]

"Remco is flying", "Remco is doing more km and hours than us", "I'm better than Pogacar in one area". I'm not buying this and they will probably get a reality check in less than 7 days.

I apreciate the fact you said "probably". You are not 100% confident it will happen.

 

[tp4493]

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld5hzf7zpD4
Talks expectations down a little I feel like

 

[CyclistAbi]

Considering Rogla isn't competing hopefully for Pogi to win.

 

[Unchained]

All this confidence of Vingegaard and Remco looks bulls#it to me. Can't wait for Combloux.

The interview below with Pog is good, same channel has interviews with other riders including Remco. All the stuff I have watched and read have nobody expressing over confidence. All top guys are very measured in what they are doing, so getting dropped might be bad but not winning the race is not significant in their words. Remco sounds like if he can climb with best 5 riders and loses, no big deal, TDF is the end game. I enjoy hearing the riders speak because you see that they are not arrogant, instead looking for measurements to see where they are compared to each other.

 

[Extinction]

The interview below with Pog is good, same channel has interviews with other riders including Remco. All the stuff I have watched and read have nobody expressing over confidence. All top guys are very measured in what they are doing, so getting dropped might be bad but not winning the race is not significant in their words. Remco sounds like if he can climb with best 5 riders and loses, no big deal, TDF is the end game. I enjoy hearing the riders speak because you see that they are not arrogant, instead looking for measurements to see where they are compared to each other.

In those same "measurements" the game is rigged. Let them race without data and see if that has an effect. I mean, pretty soon, microchips shall be implanted and then it becomes a video game.

 

[Unchained]

In those same "measurements" the game is rigged. Let them race without data and see if that has an effect. I mean, pretty soon, microchips shall be implanted and then it becomes a video game.

I think you are saying something that many people want, but it's going in the other direction and remember that wearables are going to up the game again.
When UCI gets paid enough wearable glucose monitors are going to be big,
Del Toro bonking was textbook example. Once teams can monitor sugar levels in real time they will be custom feeding each rider..grams of carbs have changed everything.. I was given books by Jeff Pierce, Thomas Prehn , Eddie B, and others,
I would bet that most of the information would be considered completely wrong in today's bike racing environment. LSD( long steady distance) are something that still resembles zone 2 training., but almost nothing else. Chris Carmichael, Time Crunched Cyclist or e-books by Floyd Landis coach Dr. Arnie Baker all had versions of modern training. I personally think modern technology has given people a chance, stuff you had to learn by going on group rides, training and regular races can be done by many alone, I never thought riding slow would make you fast.
.these modern technology breakthroughs are pretty awesome!!
Your observation about implanting microchips was proposed by US government employee, Elon Musk..
Coming to a bike race near you....!

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UK2jumNXsT0&pp=ygUfSW1wbGFudGluZyBtaWNyb2NoaXBzIGluIGh1bWFucw%3D%3D

 

[Extinction]

I think you are saying something that many people want, but it's going in the other direction and remember that wearables are going to up the game again.
When UCI gets paid enough wearable glucose monitors are going to be big,
Del Toro bonking was textbook example. Once teams can monitor sugar levels in real time they will be custom feeding each rider..grams of carbs have changed everything.. I was given books by Jeff Pierce, Thomas Prehn , Eddie B, and others,
I would bet that most of the information would be considered completely wrong in today's bike racing environment. LSD( long steady distance) are something that still resembles zone 2 training., but almost nothing else. Chris Carmichael, Time Crunched Cyclist or e-books by Floyd Landis coach Dr. Arnie Baker all had versions of modern training. I personally think modern technology has given people a chance, stuff you had to learn by going on group rides, training and regular races can be done by many alone, I never thought riding slow would make you fast.
.these modern technology breakthroughs are pretty awesome!!
Your observation about implanting microchips was proposed by US government employee, Elon Musk..
Coming to a bike race near you....!

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UK2jumNXsT0&pp=ygUfSW1wbGFudGluZyBtaWNyb2NoaXBzIGluIGh1bWFucw%3D%3D

LSD is a trip, by contrast zone two means you are constantly on the edge between comfort and discomfort, pushing less than you can, but more than you want to. Works charms, if you are already in good shape.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Not really, Rogla is fine and happy with the Tour route and position being in, stars aligned. People obsessed with Pogi and Jonas, in their eyes some weird *** is currently ongoing. Affecting directly mostly them.

A couple of moments after writing that Elon Musk and brain chips and LSD all over the place. Guys.

 

[Peyroteo94]

The interview below with Pog is good, same channel has interviews with other riders including Remco. All the stuff I have watched and read have nobody expressing over confidence. All top guys are very measured in what they are doing, so getting dropped might be bad but not winning the race is not significant in their words. Remco sounds like if he can climb with best 5 riders and loses, no big deal, TDF is the end game. I enjoy hearing the riders speak because you see that they are not arrogant, instead looking for measurements to see where they are compared to each other.

Sometimes they say arrogant things but I think it's because they don't want to look defeated.

 

[Unchained]

Sometimes they say arrogant things but I think it's because they don't want to look defeated.

Certainly everyone sees things differently, I watched Pogacar and Remco interviews pre Dauphine, and they both struck me as grounded.
And I like that each rider has multiple years of comparison data, all riders that I have read or watched videos , all say that they are at their better levels than years previous.
I am super excited to see them test each other.. Wish it could have been Giro!!

 

[No Excuses]

The GOAT will be back in the saddle today. What a great day for cycling.

 

[Poursuivant]

Stage one looks possible for him today I think

 

[Peyroteo94]

Stage one looks possible for him today I think

600m hill is very short. Pogacar only wins if he is in the first 10 positions when they hit the bottom of the hill.

 

[Poursuivant]

600m hill is very short. Pogacar only wins if he is in the first 10 positions when they hit the bottom of the hill.

I think he will try for the stage.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I think he will try for the stage.

Maybe but if riders hit the last hill with full speed, it's hard to think how can he drop everyone.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Pogacar chatting with Vingegaard. Maybe they are not really enemies.

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[Rechtschreibfehler]

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld5hzf7zpD4
Talks expectations down a little I feel like

My main takeaways are:
- He doesn't know the exact effect of the training yet, and says the leg's aren't as GT ready as they were last year, because of different training for the classics campaign.
- He's very happy with his numbers.
- "Unfortunately I'm stuck with it every year" about the Tour. He needs to change his racing schedule because "otherwise I woudln't last very long" because of boredom.
- He needs to take the thought away that he definitively needs to win the Dauphine, because it's not an exact indicator for the TdF anyway.

Overall I'd say he sounds pretty confident (very happy with the numbers) but knows that different training might have an effect on his stage racing, and he's not 100% certain that the legs will do his bidding exactly already, or if they need to do a little more work on certain aspects after the Dauphine.