Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[jmdirt]

Great ride TP!

 

[Cycling111]

Again this talk about Yates? Can you wait for the mountains to have reliable information?

Don't blame me, it's normal to have doubts

I see three Visma riders in the top10 climb, Almeida is missing due to poor positioning, and it's understandable to question that.

The result was the best today, but the reality is that as soon as Visma took over, they dropped the entire UAE. Campenaerts' pace eliminated Wellens and put Narvaez in trouble.

In the high mountains, it will be very important to recover Adam Yates.

 

[Rou]

He'll have to do the time trial wearing the mountain jersey. Between that and the ITT material , I have a bad feeling.

My feeling is that Pog will put 30-40 secs on Vingegaard tomorrow. I said it before the Tour started and I still believe that.

 

[Lorzenz08]

He'll have to do the time trial wearing the mountain jersey. Between that and the ITT material , I have a bad feeling.

Damn the polka jersey ? If he has a bad performance I will blame it all on the jersey. I already find it quite ugly as it is,if on top of that it is hindering his performance 🤬

 

[Peyroteo94]

Don't blame me, it's normal to have doubts

I see three Visma riders in the top10 climb, Almeida is missing due to poor positioning, and it's understandable to question that.

The result was the best today, but the reality is that as soon as Visma took over, they dropped the entire UAE. Campenaerts' pace eliminated Wellens and put Narvaez in trouble.

In the high mountains, it will be very important to recover Adam Yates.

Pogacar did more than 9 w/kg with a chicane in the climb.

 

[Cycling111]

Damn the polka jersey ? If he has a bad performance I will blame it all on the jersey. I already find it quite ugly as it is,if on top of that it is hindering his performance 🤬

Wellens had to overcome one of the climbs first, but in the final meters, a UnoX rider overtook him.

 

[Lorzenz08]

My prediction for tomorrow :
1) Evenepoel
2) Vingegaard : +26 secs
3) Pogi : +38 secs

 

[Jeppeb]

My feeling is that Pog will put 30-40 secs on Vingegaard tomorrow. I said it before the Tour started and I still believe that.

That’s cute. Delusional, but cute.

 

[Peyroteo94]

My prediction for tomorrow :
1) Evenepoel
2) Vingegaard : +26 secs
3) Pogi : +38 secs

It would be a great result for Pog

 

[Peyroteo94]

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[Rou]

That’s cute. Delusional, but cute.

Let's see tomorrow how delusional I am.

 

[scribers]

I’m terrified to look at mou’s prediction

 

[Oldman]

I rewatched the last 10 km and Vingegaard sprinted to not get dropped. He went completely over his limit there. I don't know if he will keep up on longer climbs.

You could see Tadej check back at how close the chasers were, and wisely not trying the descending portion alone. JV's guys would've caught on with a bit more force. Jonas was getting gapped before Tadej chilled out for a moment. That pitch looked like 20%+ from the lead camera view, too.

 

[Oldman]

There's little talk about how the UAE was a disaster, and that Pogacar shone in the 2019 Vuelta as a rookie and won the 2020 Tour in a mediocre team.

UAE was on par with Total Energies in the Vuelta. A complete disaster of performance. Aru and Henao crawled the entire Vuelta.

In the 2020 Tour, only de la Cruz had any level in mountain. He was the only one against Kriswijk, Kuss, Van Aert, Doumolin... the rest were sprinters, DNFs, and mediocre performances.

I would´ve liked to see Vingegaard in such a mediocre team in a GT.

Jonas without Matteo today would've been with Roglic.

 

[Mina.S]

I’ll be interested to see how the ITT goes but I’ve been watching cycling enough to know that pog routinely has “bad” time trials every once in a while. Hopefully they fixed whatever problem or he just got his random bad ITT performance out of him before the tour.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Pogacar went deep too but Vingegaard almost sold his soul to the devil to follow there.

It seems that Pogi dropped Vingo and then cooked himself. He visibly slowed down just before the top.

 

[Peyroteo94]

It seems that Pogi dropped Vingo and then cooked himself. He visibly slowed down just before the top.

It is true but he dropped Vingegaard in a fresh effort. It's still impressive. On San Luca He didn't drop Vingegaard at all, in fact I think Vingegaard wasn't at his limit.

 

[Peyroteo94]

The same way I think Pogacar will be mediocre in the TT because of what he showed in the Dauphine, I also think Vingegaard showed his punch once again like he showed in the Dauphine too (stage 1). The real question for Vingegaard is if he can stay on Pogacar's wheel in stage 12.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Today is the most important day to Vingegaard IMHO. He is basically screwed (IMHO) if he doesn't win time on Pogacar.
I can only see him winning in 2 ways:
1- Pogacar crashes out.
2 - Win time on the TT (more than 25 seconds) and hang on for dear life in the mountains.

 

[Jeppeb]

Today is the most important day to Vingegaard IMHO. He is basically screwed (IMHO) if he doesn't win time on Pogacar.
I can only see him winning in 2 ways:
1- Pogacar crashes out.
2 - Win time on the TT (more than 25 seconds) and hang on for dear life in the mountains.

Vingegaard has crushed him on Hautacam before, he can do it again.

 

[BubbaChuck]

pog looked so fesh after stage in comp to others,thye are cooked.everything pog does screams insane climbing is coming.its started on cipressa.yesterday same,vinge could follow on punch,but than he couldnot hold it.and that juts translates into climbing.dont care about the punch,tempo is key.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Vingegaard has crushed him on Hautacam before, he can do it again.

No he can't unless Pogacar is injured.

 

[Peyroteo94]

pog looked so fesh after stage in comp to others,thye are cooked.everything pog does screams insane climbing is coming.its started on cipressa.yesterday same,vinge could follow on punch,but than he couldnot hold it.and that juts translates into climbing.dont care about the punch,tempo is key.

I never understood why Vingegaard isn't suited to punchy climbs because he is light. In fact being lighter is better in steep gradients

 

[Cycling111]

Pogacar arrived at Hautacam after a crash and after attacking four or five times because he needed to make up three minutes.

Besides, Roglic isn't in Visma to do a Granon.
This Tour won't be anything like that one.

 

[Jeppeb]

No he can't unless Pogacar is injured.

Relax bro, you might choke on it. Was he injured in 2022 or 2023?