Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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What are you going on about? Have a little more respect for Vingo. These guys totaled the climbing record into a head wind and pogi did most of it seated
That appeared to be the lightest headwind we've seen in....forever. They had crowds lining both sides of the road as well. The last 2 km did have some visible wind but not like expected based on watching flags/banners on the route.
 
He isn't gonna take that on a single climb.
But if Vingegaard has Campenaerts and, say, Benoot up front and he is able to drop Pogacar on Madeleine (a big if, I agree), Pogacar may lose A LOT of time.
The presumption that Jonas can go hard enough to drop Pogacar and then add a bunch of time presumes Tadej can't ride a bike. If he has an illness or bonks, perhaps. He will need his team to be more present for 18, 19 and 21 in a bigger way, if possible.
 
yes and also in hautacam he did not look good, both in terms of his pedalling (visually) and his power numbers. If we compare to both tour 24 and dauphine 25 he did not look as good. And he arrived at the finish with his teeths out
Yeah he looked like *** on Hautacam even if he was destroying everyone.

I’ve noticed that issue with the aero bike on the climbs but it could just be a coincidence and/or confirmation bias on my part. Could also be it’s faster anyway but who knows.
 
He isn't gonna take that on a single climb.
But if Vingegaard has Campenaerts and, say, Benoot up front and he is able to drop Pogacar on Madeleine (a big if, I agree), Pogacar may lose A LOT of time.
He hasn't droppe him in 2 years.
Pogacar just has to follow his wheel.

We're not talking about a few days, it's a trend.

And when someone has been stronger in a Tour for two weeks, that trend usually doesn't change unless there's an illness or an accident. It's very rare to see someone who hasn't dropped another rider suddenly do so on the last day. And we're talking about two years.
 
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A single instant? These are matters of opinion and perceptions. But Visma claiming Pogacar could not hold Vingegaard on long, hard climbs at threshold was disrepectful IMO. Last year Grischa Niermann was saying this on the race radio on PdB to motivate his rider until Pogi threw it back in their faces on the road. That stage was everything Visma were telling us Vingegaard was better at: Hot and hard and had better recovery. And Pogacar still took over a minute that day.
It's not disrespectful, it was simply the truth, and it won them two Tours. It wasn't last year anymore of course. But they still need to motivate their rider. If a DS yelling in the radio "you're better than him, come on!" is already insulting, yeah, then everything's an insult.
 
He hasn't droppe him in 2 years.
Pogacar just has to follow his wheel.

We're not talking about a few days, it's a trend.

And when someone has been stronger in a Tour for two weeks, that trend usually doesn't change unless there's an illness or an accident. It's very rare to see someone who hasn't dropped another rider suddenly do so on the last day. And we're talking about two years.

The real trend in this Tour is that Pogacar dropped Vingegaard onec.
I don't count the final sprints, obviously.
This kind of trend can easily turn.

If they are evenly matched, as seen in the last 2 MTF's only alight weakness can make the difference, which could be extended in the valley by Vingegaard's team mates.
It's obvious that Vingegaard isn't dropping Pogacar by 4 minutes in the MTF's alone.
 
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The numbers were quite big. The best performance of Vinge this year.
One thing to know - this was a unipuerto.
Vinge also did high numbers in the TT - a fresh effort.
Relax guys, last week we were panicking after the crash and we saw what happened.
2 days from now you won't remember your worries from today.
I think it's a lot of overanalyzing at the moment. The fact is Pogi easily responded to all of Jonas' attacks, after Jonas was able to recover a bit while he was behind Benoot and Campanearts. Pogi is just fine. He has a 4 minute lead on Jonas. He just has to follow Jonas' wheel.
 
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Adam is completely useless on this Tour. For what he's doing, I would have preferred Majka, 35 years old and doubling. I don't think he'd contribute any less.

Sivakov and Soler horrible.
Today they were destroyed by Benoot and Campenaerts being Soler and Sivakov climbers.

My suspicions from before the Tour have been confirmed. UAE should have swapped Sivakov or Yates for another climber on the team. They've been doing poorly all year.

What I didn't expect was Soler's performance being so poor.
 
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