Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Mina.S]

Everyone is taking the same statements and writing a thousand articles.

I insist, he's saying that now; in a few weeks, he'll be thinking about winning his fifth Tour.

Domestique and others are the ones who spoke out of boredom. The TV audience doesn't support this.

Now they're excited about the idea that Pogacar won't return to the Tour. He will; I have no doubt he'll be in the 2026 Tour.

Let's not make such a big drama about it

I agree with this. He’ll be back on the bike this week - Urska is already back training for Romandie.

He also gave an interview saying his next big goal was winning PR so I doubt he’s done, he just needs a week or two at home.

 

[fenns]

I expect him to stick to his schedule and ride the Vuelta

 

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From this cannibalistic comment on top of peyregudes to speaking about boredom
& retirement a week later. What do u think happened to pog since his peyregudes comment? Has he experienced bullying on socials? Has anybody threatened him? Did he regret right after he said it? Its concerning what kind of mental state he is in since peyregudes. I've never seen him getting bored, talking of retirement, riding defensive & he has done all this in a single week. I would like to ask thread members what do u think happened to him since his cannibalistic talk on top of peyregudes?

 

[Cycling111]

I agree with this. He’ll be back on the bike this week - Urska is already back training for Romandie.

He also gave an interview saying his next big goal was winning PR so I doubt he’s done, he just needs a week or two at home.

What Soler said about yesterday's stage describes Pogacar. Before the stage, he told them he was exhausted and only thought about the podium. That it would be a quiet day. Three hours later, he was attacking in the rain 😅.

That's why I say we wait a few weeks. He'll miss competing. And the Tour might make him lazy, but in a few weeks, he'll realize he's has to win the fitth next year.

I think Pogacar is exhausted by the press and Tour fans (those on the internet). It's a very toxic environment.

 

[Offline]

What Soler said about yesterday's stage describes Pogacar. Before the stage, he told them he was exhausted and only thought about the podium. That it would be a quiet day. Three hours later, he was attacking in the rain 😅.

That's why I say we wait a few weeks. He'll miss competing. And the Tour might make him lazy, but in a few weeks, he'll realize he's one of the top five and that he has to try again next year.

I think Pogacar is exhausted by the press and Tour fans (those on the internet). It's a very toxic environment.

I agree with everything you been saying related to this last 24h..

 

[Mina.S]

What Soler said about yesterday's stage describes Pogacar. Before the stage, he told them he was exhausted and only thought about the podium. That it would be a quiet day. Three hours later, he was attacking in the rain 😅.

That's why I say we wait a few weeks. He'll miss competing. And the Tour might make him lazy, but in a few weeks, he'll realize he's has to win the fitth next year.

I think Pogacar is exhausted by the press and Tour fans (those on the internet). It's a very toxic environment.

The fans during the tour are always super toxic along with a lot of people who just don’t watch cycling year round getting involved.

It will return to normal in a week or so.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I think he is just mentally tired. The Tour is very hard, specially with all the media, speed, mind games, etc.

 

[Rechtschreibfehler]

I would generally be sceptical of reading too much into what an athlete says about retiring early, especially when they're exhausted or have just had a huge disappointment in their career.

True, hence I brought up the Dauphiné comment. He was in a good mood and probably not very exhausted when he said that.
But in general I agree, people often underestimate what exhaustion will do to your thoughts and outlook while it's there.

 

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Let's wait for Wednesday.
I really don't wanna see Ayuso in the Vuelta... If Pog misses it give the spot to another loyal domestique.

 

[Mina.S]

Let's wait for Wednesday.
I really don't wanna see Ayuso in the Vuelta... If Pog misses it give the spot to another loyal domestique.

Ciro is also reporting he is out and Ayuso added to the PCS apparently.

 

[Rou]

Ciro is also reporting he is out and Ayuso added to the PCS apparently.

Pog is not removed from PCS yet.
I am not counting out Ayuso and Pogacar riding it together.
If they grabbed Ayuso by the ears and told him to work for Pogacar to clear up their relationship. It would be better for Juan's future if he does that.
We'll see.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Pog is not removed from PCS yet.
I am not counting out Ayuso and Pogacar riding it together.
If they grabbed Ayuso by the ears and told him to work for Pogacar to clear up their relationship. It would be better for Juan's future if he does that.
We'll see.

UAE would be stronger in the Vuelta than in the Tour lol
Pogacar
Almeida
Ayuso
Majka
Bjerg
Soler
Arrieta
Another guy for the flat

 

[Peyroteo94]

Let's wait for Wednesday.
I really don't wanna see Ayuso in the Vuelta... If Pog misses it give the spot to another loyal domestique.

I don't want Ayuso in the Vuelta too but other side of me want Vingegaard to spank him

 

[Rou]

I don't want Ayuso in the Vuelta too but other side of me want Vingegaard to spank him

Imagine Vingegaard is bad for some reason (fatigue, illness, crash) and Ayuso drops him ONCE.
The Spanish Media will go crazy and demand Ayuso co-leadership in the TDF 2026.

 

[carolina]

Imagine Vingegaard is bad for some reason (fatigue, illness, crash) and Ayuso drops him ONCE.
The Spanish Media will go crazy and demand Ayuso co-leadership in the TDF 2026.

No worries, Almeida will drop both of them.

 

[Rou]

About the retirement talks from Pogacar. It's all media fuss. The media exaggerates every word Pog says.
I remember Pogacar at his most depressed state in 2023. He was doubting himself, fans didn't believe he can ever beat Vingegaard again. He made a change of coach and the rest is history.
Pogacar still has to break MVDP in MSR and Roubaix. This will keep driving him.
He won't stop until he has his number.
The cycling commentators keep referring to MVDP as 'the best classics rider' in the world.
I'm sure Pog will not stop before making sure there is no doubt who is the real BEST.

 

[Peyroteo94]

About the retirement talks from Pogacar. It's all media fuss. The media exaggerates every word Pog says.
I remember Pogacar at his most depressed state in 2023. He was doubting himself, fans didn't believe he can ever beat Vingegaard again. He made a change of coach and the rest is history.
Pogacar still has to break MVDP in MSR and Roubaix. This will keep driving him.
He won't stop until he has his number.
The cycling commentators keep referring to MVDP as 'the best classics rider' in the world.
I'm sure Pog will not stop before making sure there is no doubt who is the real BEST.

This annoys me so much. Pogacar is by far the best classics rider.

 

[Merckx]

The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long..

Unpopular opinion, but I actually would love to see Pogačar retire while he is indisputably on top. Of course, I hope he races for at least has 1-2 more seasons to obtain a 5th Tour and round out his palmares with PR and MSR.

His greatness will be missed, but I think it would be more befitting the GOAT to leave on his terms when HE feels he’s achieved what he wants, rather than fade into obscurity à la Froome.

 

[Peyroteo94]

The difference between Almeida and Ayuso. How many times did Pogacar speak about Ayuso last year after his early withdrawal? Zero!!
This year, I don't even know how many times he mentioned Almeida. Big difference.

Pogacar said "Vuelta is calling". It's for Almeida or for himself?

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From this cannibalistic comment on top of peyregudes to speaking about boredom
& retirement a week later. What do u think happened to pog since his peyregudes comment? Has he experienced bullying on socials? Has anybody threatened him? Did he regret right after he said it? Its concerning what kind of mental state he is in since peyregudes. I've never seen him getting bored, talking of retirement, riding defensive & he has done all this in a single week. I would like to ask thread members what do u think happened to him since his cannibalistic talk on top of peyregudes?

To be the greatest ever requires absolute mental determination and clarity of intention. The body limits are defined mentally. Eddy was an absolute psycho and drove him to unthinkable domination.

 

[BubbaChuck]

Merckx: "There was barely any tension in France, if there had been more competition, it would have been harder for him to achieve so many victories. Mathieu van der Poel is the only one that can offer Tadej Pogacar a challenge" Scared that streets know,lol.

 

[yaf2]

To be the greatest ever requires absolute mental determination and clarity of intention. The body limits are defined mentally. Eddy was an absolute psycho and drove him to unthinkable domination.

Does mental burnout happen in a space of a day when u said u're going to be enemies with 99% of the peleton due to ur merciless approach & the next week u do nothing?

 

[Pogacsa]

Alex Dowsett on the ITV commentary noted that Pogacar is still wearing bandages and I suspect some of his apparent malaise in the last 9 days might be attributable to the stage 11 crash, which was not trivial. I do wonder if his exertions on stages 12 and 13 saw him writing cheques that his body was very reluctant to cash. Interestingly, Tom Danielson (who against all my prejudices says some quite interesting things on occasion) made an interesting observation in one of his podcasts that crashes take far more out of cyclists than people like us would imagine.

As for MVDP as the best classics rider, I have no problem with that as a statement (MSR, PR, RV). We are collectively extraordinarily lucky to be watching him and even luckier that Pogacar has been challenging him over the last 3 years.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Alex Dowsett on the ITV commentary noted that Pogacar is still wearing bandages and I suspect some of his apparent malaise in the last 9 days might be attributable to the stage 11 crash, which was not trivial. I do wonder if his exertions on stages 12 and 13 saw him writing cheques that his body was very reluctant to cash. Interestingly, Tom Danielson (who against all my prejudices says some quite interesting things on occasion) made an interesting observation in one of his podcasts that crashes take far more out of cyclists than people like us would imagine.

As for MVDP as the best classics rider, I have no problem with that as a statement (MSR, PR, RV). We are collectively extraordinarily lucky to be watching him and even luckier that Pogacar has been challenging him over the last 3 years.

Sorry but it's hard to consider MVP the best when you archrival can win 3 monuments this year and finish all 5 on the podium (while fighting for the win in all of them). There is really no debate.
MVP can't do this, not even in his best dreams.