Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Rou]

I hope Jonas wins 5+ stages and overall with 10 min. So that it stops with that Pogacar nonsense how he is killing cycling. I like Almeida and if he wins i will be happy to but this co-leading with Ayuso bothers me so much i would like to see UAE managment getting lecture from Visma again.

Gianetti wanted Pogacar to do the Vuelta but Pog refused.
That's why he started all the theatrics about retirement.

 

[Charlyghoul]

Pogi has lost the plot if that jersey is serious.
A champion is one of the people, selected by the people, to ride for the people.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Can I say MVP is running away from Pogacar? He is not riding in Kigali. In Pogacar's terrain, MVP doesn't even show up.

You can say it, of course you can. I would suggest that in the context of a race on a route on which van der Poel would have no ambitions it is rather meaningless though. If Pogacar doesn't show up for some cyclocross, is it valid to say that he is running away from van der Poel.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

A champion is one of the people, selected by the people, to ride for the people.

No, it's a guy who wins a championship. He is one of the people in as much as he is a human: he rides for, and is selected by, the team that employ him.

 

[Cycling111]

Can I say MVP is running away from Pogacar? He is not riding in Kigali. In Pogacar's terrain, MVP doesn't even show up.

I find it more significant that he didn't return to Strade Bianche.

He says it's too tough, but he would have finished second.
It's just as tough as for Pogacar to win San Remo or Roubaix, but he risks losing.

 

[Cycling111]

He has more in his arsenal

https://twitter.com/x/status/1957451131077972003

View: https://x.com/BikeBlz/status/1957451131077972003

Who's the Jayco rider? That's not Mathews.

Pogacar only has two races left in the rainbow jersey

 

[CyclistAbi]

In Slovenia, being such a weak team, the roles should be clearer. "All balls to Jordan".

A so called mono ball ride. And besides in Rogla thread you said it makes no difference to Pogi anyway, if Rogla does a pull or not. So there is that.

 

[Charlyghoul]

It has to be joke jersey, do not disturb?! Pogacar must be trolling a bit here…please tell me that’s right

 

[CyclistAbi]

It has to be joke jersey, do not disturb?! Pogacar must be trolling a bit here…please tell me that’s right

It's the curse of rainbow jersey.

 

[CyclistAbi]

It seems that Pogi is running rather skinny lately?

 

[Peyroteo94]

It has to be joke jersey, do not disturb?! Pogacar must be trolling a bit here…please tell me that’s right

I don't think anyone knows...
IMHO he is not joking. Pogacar is very polite and he probably doesn't say no to anyone who comes to take a photo with him. I think he is tired.

 

[Charlyghoul]

I don't think anyone knows...
IMHO he is not joking. Pogacar is very polite and he probably doesn't say no to anyone who comes to take a photo with him. I think he is tired.

I like to think there must be an element of a joke/trolling to it.
I could see someone not wanting photos taken of them all the time, but that goes for any sportsperson/celebrity. It goes with being rich and famous. But some people have real problems, it’s frankly pathetic without an element of a joke to it.
It’d also be stupid as surely it just attracts attention and comments about him?

 

[Peyroteo94]

I like to think there must be an element of a joke/trolling to it.
I could see someone not wanting photos taken of them all the time, but that goes for any sportsperson/celebrity. It goes with being rich and famous. But some people have real problems, it’s frankly pathetic without an element of a joke to it.
It’d also be stupid as surely it just attracts attention and comments about him?

I don't know. He looks different but we will see how good he is in 4 weeks. I expect total dominance.

 

[Charlyghoul]

I don't know. He looks different but we will see how good he is in 4 weeks. I expect total dominance.

I don’t think it will affect his racing at the moment.

 

[HashRouge]

Who's the Jayco rider? That's not Mathews.

Pogacar only has two races left in the rainbow jersey

I was trying to work out if it's Eddy Dunbar. He's not really in the video enough to tell! I'm sure Bling posted a video on Instagram just before the Tour of himself cycling with Eddy Dunbar and Pog.

 

[Cycling111]

I like to think there must be an element of a joke/trolling to it.
I could see someone not wanting photos taken of them all the time, but that goes for any sportsperson/celebrity. It goes with being rich and famous. But some people have real problems, it’s frankly pathetic without an element of a joke to it.
It’d also be stupid as surely it just attracts attention and comments about him?

That's not true. Not all athletes have fans in their training sessions, like cyclists have fans standing behind them and filming them. In sports like football or basketball, fans don't interfere with their training sessions.

There are videos on YouTube and social media of fans filming Pogacar from behind on the road. In other sports, there's no such intrusion.

 

[HashRouge]

Gianetti wanted Pogacar to do the Vuelta but Pog refused.
That's why he started all the theatrics about retirement.

I've half convinced myself it's the other way round - Pog wanted to go, but Gianetti and Maxtin wanted an olive branch for Ayuso so they told Pog he couldn't go after all. That's why he was so miserable for the last week of the Tour and why he's mainly been wearing non-UAE kit ever since. I recognise this is probably nonsense, I have a very overactive imagination.

 

[CyclistAbi]

My advice would be, when dealing with media, just pose as Rogla.

 

[Charlyghoul]

That's not true. Not all athletes have fans in their training sessions, like cyclists have fans standing behind them and filming them. In sports like football or basketball, fans don't interfere with their training sessions.

There are videos on YouTube and social media of fans filming Pogacar from behind on the road. In other sports, there's no such intrusion.

Interesting point, I suppose that’s true for some sports and not others.
Still think it’s pathetic, Pogacar is only famous in a minority sports star, it’s not like you see Cristiano Ronaldo or Tom cruise walking round wearing a ‘do not disturb jersey’

 

[HashRouge]

Interesting point, I suppose that’s true for some sports and not others.
Still think it’s pathetic, Pogacar is only famous in a minority sports star, it’s not like you see Cristiano Ronaldo or Tom cruise walking round wearing a ‘do not disturb jersey’

Maybe not, but I'm fairly sure they both have private security/ bodyguards and travel in chauffeur driver cars. It's not quite the same as being a pro cyclist where your job means you have to cycle round public roads almost completely unprotected.

I also think the jersey is quite funny. I'm enjoying this version of Pog to be honest...although I hope that he's actually okay and just a bit over it all, rather than suffering from any kind of serious burnout/ depression.

 

[Charlyghoul]

Maybe not, but I'm fairly sure they both have private security/ bodyguards and travel in chauffeur driver cars. It's not quite the same as being a pro cyclist where your job means you have to cycle round public roads almost completely unprotected.

I also think the jersey is quite funny. I'm enjoying this version of Pog to be honest...although I hope that he's actually okay and just a bit over it all, rather than suffering from any kind of serious burnout/ depression.

Yes another good point. There might be videos on YouTube of Pog being taken by random people driving, but is he really that often mobbed or distracted by fans doing that ? I mean I am sure UAE could afford to have him 100% protected all the time from stuff like that if it were deemed necessary.
The jersey is silly indeed, I’m going to keep believing it’s high level trolling by Pog. Nice one Pog

 

[hayneplane]

You can say it, of course you can. I would suggest that in the context of a race on a route on which van der Poel would have no ambitions it is rather meaningless though. If Pogacar doesn't show up for some cyclocross, is it valid to say that he is running away from van der Poel.

It has a huge amount of cumulative vertical metres but with the vast majority of the climbing being 1km efforts on cobbles it would be a race that potentially MVDP could still podium.

This is a course akin to what Glasgow was for Pogacar where he could compete and win a medal but very difficult to win.

 

[jono]

I find it more significant that he didn't return to Strade Bianche.

He says it's too tough, but he would have finished second.
It's just as tough as for Pogacar to win San Remo or Roubaix, but he risks losing.

Do you really believe this? There have to be 10-15 riders who have a better shot on the current SB course than MVDP.

Can't say the same about Pogacar at San Remo.

 

[jono]

It has a huge amount of cumulative vertical metres but with the vast majority of the climbing being 1km efforts on cobbles it would be a race that potentially MVDP could still podium.

This is a course akin to what Glasgow was for Pogacar where he could compete and win a medal but very difficult to win.

MVDP might be able to top 10 in Rwanda but a podium is a fantasy.

More importantly, he is taking the opportunity of an unfavorable worlds course to race MTB worlds instead. Montreal next year might present another such opportunity.

Logical move with regards to the sort of palmares he is interesting in putting together.

 

[Peyroteo94]

The problem for MVP is Pogacar. He knows he can't beat him. Simple as that.