Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Peyroteo94]

Peak Roglic is way over. He will not be a significant factor at World's unless he works fully for Pog (which he will not).

Even last year, he wasn't close to his best IMO.

 

[Cycling111]

Peak Roglic is way over. He will not be a significant factor at World's unless he works fully for Pog (which he will not).

The problem is that Slovenia has nothing this year, so a 50-yearRoglic would be the best domestique
They have Novak, Roglic and? Tratnik just got married and isn't going, but even if he did, this year he's been horrible this year.
We'll forgive him after what he did last year.

 

[Shortcut]

The problem is that Slovenia has nothing this year, so a 50-yearRoglic would be the best domestique
They have Novak, Roglic and? Tratnik just got married and isn't going, but even if he did, this year he's been horrible this year.
We'll forgive him after what he did last year.

Maybe Omrzel, i don't know how strong is he on flat but he showed really good performance on tour of Slovenia (4th). Govekar and Mezgec should also be good for first 100km.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Maybe Omrzel, i don't know how strong is he on flat but he showed really good performance on tour of Slovenia (4th). Govekar and Mezgec should also be good for first 100km.

The problem is Kigali is very difficult. The peloton will be in pieces after 150 km

 

[Cycling111]

Maybe Omrzel, i don't know how strong is he on flat but he showed really good performance on tour of Slovenia (4th). Govekar and Mezgec should also be good for first 100km.

Omzrel will ride in U23 category.

 

[Shortcut]

The problem is Kigali is very difficult. The peloton will be in pieces after 150 km

That is why i think Roglic in breakaway should be good option for Pogacar. Belgium, Holland, USA, Denmark, Italy and Spain have all good second options even if their captains are not in breakaway.

 

[Shortcut]

Omzrel will ride in U23 category.

So he can't ride elite? I don't know rules for that.

 

[Rou]

“Jonas produced his best ever climbing performance on Mont Ventoux” – Visma say Vingegaard heads to Vuelta in peak form despite Pogacar Tour defeat

Despite finishing runner-up to Tadej Pogacar at this year’s Tour de France, Jonas Vingegaard is heading into the 2025 Vuelta a Espana in what Team Visma | Lease a Bike describe as the best form of his...

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Pogacar made a wise decision by running away from Spain.
The Dane would have smashed him.

 

[Peyroteo94]

“Jonas produced his best ever climbing performance on Mont Ventoux” – Visma say Vingegaard heads to Vuelta in peak form despite Pogacar Tour defeat

Despite finishing runner-up to Tadej Pogacar at this year’s Tour de France, Jonas Vingegaard is heading into the 2025 Vuelta a Espana in what Team Visma | Lease a Bike describe as the best form of his...

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Pogacar made a wise decision by running away from Spain.
The Dane would have smashed him.

Is this a joke?

 

[Monsi]

“Jonas produced his best ever climbing performance on Mont Ventoux” – Visma say Vingegaard heads to Vuelta in peak form despite Pogacar Tour defeat

Despite finishing runner-up to Tadej Pogacar at this year’s Tour de France, Jonas Vingegaard is heading into the 2025 Vuelta a Espana in what Team Visma | Lease a Bike describe as the best form of his...

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Pogacar made a wise decision by running away from Spain.
The Dane would have smashed him.

Obvious ragebait but yeah Pogi easily dealt with "best climbing performance" Vingegaard.

 

[CyclistAbi]

I just hope Pogi won't try to launch Rogla on Kigali, both should get over.

 

[Cycling111]

“Jonas produced his best ever climbing performance on Mont Ventoux” – Visma say Vingegaard heads to Vuelta in peak form despite Pogacar Tour defeat

Despite finishing runner-up to Tadej Pogacar at this year’s Tour de France, Jonas Vingegaard is heading into the 2025 Vuelta a Espana in what Team Visma | Lease a Bike describe as the best form of his...

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Pogacar made a wise decision by running away from Spain.
The Dane would have smashed him.

Just like he was going to destroy him in the Tour
Rather, Vingegaard should be thankful that without Pogacar, he can save his season by winning a GT.

In that route, Pogacar could have won the Vuelta with the final sprints.
In the Vuelta he was more favorite than Vingegaard than in the Tour.

 

[hayneplane]

So he can't ride elite? I don't know rules for that.

I would think he would rather contend for victory in the under 23 race than DNF with 100km to go in the elite race.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Just like he was going to destroy him in the Tour
Rather, Vingegaard should be thankful that without Pogacar, he can save his season by winning a GT.

In that route, Pogacar could have won the Vuelta with the final sprints.
In the Vuelta he was more favorite than Vingegaard than in the Tour.

This Vuelta is tailormade for Pogacar. There is no chance against him in this route.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I would think he would rather contend for victory in the under 23 race than DNF with 100km to go in the elite race.

Of course but Slovenia will not have strength to control at least 150 km.

 

[Lorzenz08]

Of course but Slovenia will not have strength to control at least 150 km.

What if he can somehow bait Remco to go with him when he attacks neutralizing the Belgium team and working together ?

 

[Peyroteo94]

What if he can somehow bait Remco to go with him when he attacks neutralizing the Belgium team and working together ?

I think he will try to do that and I think it is his best chance. Remco has a big ego and will work with him. Of course, I expect Pogacar to drop him later if this scenario happens.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Is he back in Monaco doing real training? 3 weeks until his first race after the Tour. This is when he needs to build some classics shape

 

[Berniece]

Is he back in Monaco doing real training? 3 weeks until his first race after the Tour. This is when he needs to build some classics shape

He's been training already for a while now.

 

[rafa92]

“Jonas produced his best ever climbing performance on Mont Ventoux” – Visma say Vingegaard heads to Vuelta in peak form despite Pogacar Tour defeat

Despite finishing runner-up to Tadej Pogacar at this year’s Tour de France, Jonas Vingegaard is heading into the 2025 Vuelta a Espana in what Team Visma | Lease a Bike describe as the best form of his...

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Pogacar made a wise decision by running away from Spain.
The Dane would have smashed him.

just like the tour right?

 

[Cycling111]

It's Vingegaard who's avoiding the World Cup against Pogacar



I've seen some photos of Pogacar training, once again wearing a non-UAE white jersey, but riding a regular bike.

He doesn't seem to take the World Championship time trial very seriously.

 

[Peyroteo94]

It's Vingegaard who's avoiding the World Cup against Pogacar



I've seen some photos of Pogacar training, once again wearing a non-UAE white jersey, but riding a regular bike.

He doesn't seem to take the World Championship time trial very seriously.

Why?

 

[Rou]

I was actually surprised by this stat.
The Vuelta this year with the 'soft' route still has more Total Elevation gain and more Elevation / Per Km than the Giro and the Tour.
Understandably Pog skipped it because he would have finished it too exhausted for World's.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I was actually surprised by this stat.
The Vuelta this year with the 'soft' route still has more Total Elevation gain and more Elevation / Per Km than the Giro and the Tour.
Understandably Pog skipped it because he would have finished it too exhausted for World's.

Vertical meters are not everything.
Tour had 3 or 4 stages for GC riders very hectic and very stressful (stages 2, 4, 6, 7) despite few elevation. This is something the Vuelta doesn't have.

 

[Rou]

Vertical meters are not everything.
Tour had 3 or 4 stages for GC riders very hectic and very stressful (stages 2, 4, 6, 7) despite few elevation. This is something the Vuelta doesn't have.

The Tour is the Tour. If you have 21 flat stages they would still race like maniacs.
My point is that the Vuelta is hard.
Pogacar will not double a TDF + Vuelta with a classics campaign before that.