Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Unchained]

He´s performed well in Autumn, but in Emilia, which isn't the longest-distance race.
Roglic often struggles when the race is so long.

The World Championships are too hard for Roglic. 270km and elevation gain. If he hasn't won Lombardia, I'd give him less chances at a World Championships where there's more chaos.

But this shouldn't even be discussed sharing a national team with Pogacar.
It's like Van Aert. He would be a leader in most national teams, but with Remco, he's no longer leader.
In Slovenia, being such a weak team, the roles should be clearer. "All balls to Jordan".

Could be true but..today is another example of peaks and valleys.. Arnaud De Lie is rolling good enough that any given one day race could go his way, he is part of the race were he has been missing for more than a year.. Wout, Remco both great for sure, but in one day stuff have to at least think about DeLie

 

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He´s performed well in Autumn, but in Emilia, which isn't the longest-distance race.
Roglic often struggles when the race is so long.

The World Championships are too hard for Roglic. 270km and elevation gain. If he hasn't won Lombardia, I'd give him less chances at a World Championships where there's more chaos.

But this shouldn't even be discussed sharing a national team with Pogacar.
It's like Van Aert. He would be a leader in most national teams, but with Remco, he's no longer leader.
In Slovenia, being such a weak team, the roles should be clearer. "All balls to Jordan".

So what would you say to him? If you don't ride for Pogi then you are not riding for Slovenian team? So who do they take instead of him? They trully don't have nobody else and with Roglic they have second option.

 

[scribers]

He´s performed well in Autumn, but in Emilia, which isn't the longest-distance race.
Roglic often struggles when the race is so long.

The World Championships are too hard for Roglic. 270km and elevation gain. If he hasn't won Lombardia, I'd give him less chances at a World Championships where there's more chaos.

But this shouldn't even be discussed sharing a national team with Pogacar.
It's like Van Aert. He would be a leader in most national teams, but with Remco, he's no longer leader.
In Slovenia, being such a weak team, the roles should be clearer. "All balls to Jordan".

WVA has demonstrated he can actually support a team leader. I am struggling to think of an instance with Roglic. Last year at Worlds doesn't count at all.

 

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WVA has demonstrated he can actually support a team leader. I am struggling to think of an instance with Roglic. Last year at Worlds doesn't count at all.

He never did and doesn't need to. I don't see a world where Roglic is motivated to help win Pogacar another gold.

 

[Peyroteo94]

So what would you say to him? If you don't ride for Pogi then you are not riding for Slovenian team? So who do they take instead of him? They trully don't have nobody else and with Roglic they have second option.

Roglic is going because he is a superstar.

 

[scribers]

He never did and doesn't need to. I don't see a world where Roglic is motivated to help win Pogacar another gold.

That doesn't sound very patriotic. There will be few to no instances where his trade team will want him leading a race going forward. Maybe Tour of Suisse

 

[Cycling111]

So what would you say to him? If you don't ride for Pogi then you are not riding for Slovenian team? So who do they take instead of him? They trully don't have nobody else and with Roglic they have second option.

Van Aert had to accept it.
And Pogacar accepted in 2020 that he wasn't the leader even though he had just beaten Roglic in the Tour.

 

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Van Aert had to accept it.
And Pogacar accepted in 2020 that he wasn't the leader even though he had just beaten Roglic in the Tour.

When did Van Aert accept it?

 

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That doesn't sound very patriotic. There will be few to no instances where his trade team will want him leading a race going forward. Maybe Tour of Suisse

Still don't get what difference does it make for Slovenian team Roglic being allowed there racing as a freelancer or racing without him ? If he makes good result on his own then great. He was there when they won first gold. He could also just finish his season just like Wout. I still think he is Top 10 candidate at this route. So if gets in right break that would be huge for Novak and Pogacar.

 

[scribers]

You think teams will mark Roglic in a break over Pog? Pog aint skipping the Vuelta to show up at Worlds and let Roglic luck merchant his way to maybe a podium spot when he himself can win it outright.

 

[scribers]

When did Van Aert accept it?

Olympics off the top of my head

 

[Peyroteo94]

I hope to see Rog leading out Pogacar until 92 km to go.

 

[Rob5091]

I hope to see Rog leading out Pogacar until 92 km to go.

92 km ? The Pogster is long gone by then! Race over, go put the kettle on, take out the dog and come back for the Pogster to cross the line waving to the crowd and then giving Mrs Pogster a big smacker. Sorry, should have said Spolier Alert!

 

[Peyroteo94]

92 km ? The Pogster is long gone by then! Race over, go put the kettle on, take out the dog and come back for the Pogster to cross the line waving to the crowd and then giving Mrs Pogster a big smacker. Sorry, should have said Spolier Alert!

It's my prediction!

 

[hayneplane]

If Roglic was to ride he could well repeat what he did in Harrogate 2019 when he and Quintana went in a ludicrously stacked early break of the day.

 

[Peyroteo94]

If Roglic was to ride he could well repeat what he did in Harrogate 2019 when he and Quintana went in a ludicrously stacked early break of the day.

It would be great for Slovenia and Pogacar. Roglic attacking would put pressure on other teams.

 

[Cycling111]

Every time I see the easy route of theVuelta, I think Pogacar would have won easily.
On a course like that, Pogacar is a clear favorite over Vingegaard.

And the startlist is very weak. There are no strong teams or riders to breakaways in mountain finish stages.
It will be very easy to control the stages to win. Vingegaard can win seven stages if he wants.

Next year there will be a very tough route and Pogacar will go. LOL.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Every time I see the easy route of theVuelta, I think Pogacar would have won easily.
On a course like that, Pogacar is a clear favorite over Vingegaard.

And the startlist is very weak. There are no strong teams or riders to breakaways in mountain finish stages.
It will be very easy to control the stages to win. Vingegaard can win seven stages if he wants.

Next year there will be a very tough route and Pogacar will go. LOL.

This Vuelta is tailormade for vintage Valverde.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Every time I see the easy route of theVuelta, I think Pogacar would have won easily.
On a course like that, Pogacar is a clear favorite over Vingegaard.

And the startlist is very weak. There are no strong teams or riders to breakaways in mountain finish stages.
It will be very easy to control the stages to win. Vingegaard can win seven stages if he wants.

Next year there will be a very tough route and Pogacar will go. LOL.

Pogacar is tired after an all-out classics campaign and 3 weeks of racing against Visma. He doesn't want another 3 weeks away and prefers WC + Lombardy double attempt.

 

[Lequack]

His jersey... Lol

He has more in his arsenal

https://twitter.com/x/status/1957451131077972003

View: https://x.com/BikeBlz/status/1957451131077972003

 

[Krzysztof_O]

@Lequack What the hell is going on with Teddy? Good that he's still training with his buddy Matthews (or at least eating out). Grupetto ride in Lombardia incoming?

 

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Every time I see the easy route of theVuelta, I think Pogacar would have won easily.
On a course like that, Pogacar is a clear favorite over Vingegaard.

And the startlist is very weak. There are no strong teams or riders to breakaways in mountain finish stages.
It will be very easy to control the stages to win. Vingegaard can win seven stages if he wants.

Next year there will be a very tough route and Pogacar will go. LOL.

I hope Jonas wins 5+ stages and overall with 10 min. So that it stops with that Pogacar nonsense how he is killing cycling. I like Almeida and if he wins i will be happy to but this co-leading with Ayuso bothers me so much i would like to see UAE managment getting lecture from Visma again.

 

[Peyroteo94]

@Lequack What the hell is going on with Teddy? Good that he's still training with his buddy Matthews (or at least eating out). Grupetto ride in Lombardia incoming?

That guy is not Matthews

 

[yaco]

That guy is not Matthews

Matthews is back at Plouay. Numbers are good. needs race rhythm.

 

[Charlyghoul]

Is that jersey of Pogs a bit of a joke or actually serious…