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Oldermanish said:
Honestly, Pog did what would have worked if they had gotten 15 seconds on MVP and WVA. Resting on their wheels would've only meant he's lose a little less time in the sprint. I love the guy but he's no match for them in that finish.
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He must have expected to drop them, as a week ago at PN he would have, and then he didn't have a plan B. I think with smarter managing of his effort he could have gotten on the podium.

On a different note, I'd never have imagined Ganna outsprinting Van Aert and Pog for second. Obviously after Matthieu's win, Filippo's was the ride of the day.
 
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tobydawq said:
I'm sorry but what is the point of this?

Yes, Nibali won some impressive races, but it's really quite ludicrous to suggest that nobody could have followed him on the Poggio and that it wasn't a tactical win. When was Nibali ever a top rider for an explosive climb like that?
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Sagan was boxed in hard the moment Nibali countereattacked if you freeze at 3:22. Like 20s later it's still Bahrain guys in front of the peloton. I dont'really consider this group 2 dynamics, but no team had good domestiques in the front of the peloton

View: https://youtu.be/ncs96s4T_II?t=202
 
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Extinction said:
He must have expected to drop them, as a week ago at PN he would have, and then he didn't have a plan B. I think with smarter managing of his effort he could have gotten on the podium.

On a different note, I'd never have imagined Ganna outsprinting Van Aert and Pog for second. Obviously after Matthieu's win, Filippo's was the ride of the day.
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Pogacar's lead out lasted about 1 minute less than necessary for him to launch and gap most of them. MVP was waiting and tactically all in for that move. That would possibly left he and Tadej off the front. Not good enough for Pogi to win and he was gassed and probably didn't care about 3rd place.
 
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Peyroteo94 said:
He is targetting too many races. He will be dead by the end of April. He should not race the Ardennes if his biggest goal is Flanders
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Why not? Racing the Ardennes doesn't impact the Flemish classics, so it's just a bonus if he does well there.

He's not racing Roubaix, and a rider like Gilbert have combined the Flemish and Walloon classics without a problem. He wasn't too tired by Liège in 2011, eh.
 
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Krzysztof_O said:
Bad news for Pog, surely. We can only speculate what was the main issue: maybe too big focus on one-day races? Or money?
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Hard to say. Usually such things come down to different views. That is if you take responsibility for such a role then you want some power that comes with it too. Otherwise you basically can't fulfill the task you are there for.

But it could be something else. Maybe they will tell us someday.
 
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Tratnik‘s start at Jumbo was a success recently, but what about Polanc at UAE team in 2023? He hasn‘t raced yet, and starts at Tour of Slovenia, according to PCS:

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He is close to Pogacar normally, a loyal helper snd someone Pog trusts and likes to race with. So I assume Polanc either crashed or has health troubles, doesn‘t he?… :-(
 
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Red Rick said:
Rain favors him a lot as a GC rider, but I'm not so sure against dudes like MvdP and Van Aert.
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It was very cold during last year's RVV, especially in the first part of the race (it snowed the day before). Teddy looked imperious compared to all those specialists so it may have been a factor. Then again, MVP and WVA race a lot of CX races in shitty weather so they should be ok with it.
 
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Krzysztof_O said:
It was very cold during last year's RVV, especially in the first part of the race (it snowed the day before). Teddy looked imperious compared to all those specialists so it may have been a factor. Then again, MVP and WVA race a lot of CX races in shitty weather so they should be ok with it.
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It’s a good point, but there may be a difference riding for 6 hours vs 1. Whatever the case I can’t wait. Favorite 1-day race of the year, and Pog made It even better last year. Gonna be awesome again I’m sure.
 
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Skijumper Roglic fan said:
Tratnik‘s start at Jumbo was a success recently, but what about Polanc at UAE team in 2023? He hasn‘t raced yet, and starts at Tour of Slovenia, according to PCS:

Jan Polanc

Jan Polanc (born 1992-05-06 in Kranj) is a former professional road racing cyclist from Slovenia, active between 2009 and 2022. His best results are 2 stage wins in Giro d'Italia and winning Trofeo Laigueglia.
www.procyclingstats.com www.procyclingstats.com

He is close to Pogacar normally, a loyal helper snd someone Pog trusts and likes to race with. So I assume Polanc either crashed or has health troubles, doesn‘t he?… :-(
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It's definitely weird. He was supposed to start the season earlier, he was on the startlist for Andalucía and some other races in February. Hope it's a relatively minor issue and not anything serious or clinic-related...
 
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Very impressive ride by Teddy today, reminiscent of last year's Flandres. He has a great shot at top3 in Flandres but by now he must have realized that beating the two big boys from the north in their playground is very difficult. If he wants to win he has to do it alone - easier said than done.
 
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I wonder if he is the fastest ever to 1000 CQ points in a season. He has 1076 after today.

EDIT: Well, this season certainly isn't the fastest ever. He did it on March 19th last year.

EDIT 2: I think Pogacar's 2022 and 2023 are the fastest-ever to 1000 CQ points. Boonen did it a couple of times by April 1st and April 2nd, but I haven't anyone else who did it faster.
 
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