Let me put it this way.
Stage 1 of the Tour is an LBL type stage. I full expect him to be top 5 over the top of the penultimate climb there
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Let me put it this way.
Stage 1 of the Tour is an LBL type stage. I full expect him to be top 5 over the top of the penultimate climb there
It's going to be exciting to see. Think he is in luck here, that Pog might be a little off in the beginning. It's easy to look like a fool when predicting cycling, but he did look good in his test run earlier this year.Let me put it this way.
Stage 1 of the Tour is an LBL type stage. I full expect him to be top 5 over the top of the penultimate climb there
It doesn‘t work especially because Armstrong did a few one-day races each year back in the day, he just didn’t win them.I don't get the dichotomy that either one races the monuments or one is like Armstrong.
Was Contador's schedule boring in 2009 and 2014?
Contadors rivals didn't do much in monuments either so it wasn't much of a stick to beat him with.I don't get the dichotomy that either one races the monuments or one is like Armstrong.
Was Contador's schedule boring in 2009 and 2014?
His biggest rival did, but on the other hand, he basically only rode two races a year at his peak. Lule.Contadors rivals didn't do much in monuments either so it wasn't much of a stick to beat him with.
I didn't criticize him for it. If I were him I would have done a similar thing to what he did last year, and try to learn those one day races in the fall, so probably do the Tre Valli/Emilia races instead of Croatia.His biggest rival did, but on the other hand, he basically only rode two races a year at his peak. Lule.
I don't understand the Vingegaard bashing. He has tried the one day races, but hes just not very good at them so he skips them to pursue other targets: big WT one week stage races, and of course TdF. Hows that not good enough? Are you guys serious, or just straight up stupid? Its very normal to plan your season around your strengths and weaknesses, and so Vingegaard has done that, just as Pogacar has done that.
Its very normal to plan your season around your strengths and weaknesses, and so Vingegaard has done that, just as Pogacar has done that.
Oh yeah, it wasn't directed at you at all, I just find it weird how clueless some posters are in regards to wanting riders like Vingegaard to compete in a broad variety of races. I'd much rather him doing this schedule, or a lighter spring and Tour + Vuelta. He just doesnt stand a chance against Pogacar and Remco in one day races, and thats fine. Who cares, that's not what he's good at. I think he's very similar to Froome and Contador in that aspect.I didn't criticize him for it. If I were him I would have done a similar thing to what he did last year, and try to learn those one day races in the fall, so probably do the Tre Valli/Emilia races instead of Croatia.
Maybe you can criticize him for not going to the 2021 Olympcis considering the parcours, but whatever, I don't know why he wasn't there.
Danish national team has potential to be pretty stacked, they don't need him, hehe. But a real mountain parcours could maybe bring him out in the future.Oh yeah, it wasn't directed at you at all, I just find it weird how clueless some posters are in regards to wanting riders like Vingegaard to compete in a broad variety of races. I'd much rather him doing this schedule, or a lighter spring and Tour + Vuelta. He just doesnt stand a chance against Pogacar and Remco in one day races, and thats fine. Who cares, that's not what he's good at. I think he's very similar to Froome and Contador in that aspect.
Dno about the Olympics. I mean, if he doesn't ride that race, he basically doesn't ride any races with the National team. Again, I don't really care since I wouldn't really rate his chances. Maybe some day in the future he will prepare for a Worlds or something.
Vingegaard in 2023:I expect you're from Denmark bc of your username.
I am from DK as well. But I hope Pogacar will win. Jonas Vingegaard is the peloton most boring rider. Both in style and as a person.
Pogacar deserve to win, he is a most bigger gift to the sport.
The way Jonas Vingegaard stay in altitude camp all year around to peak in the 3rd week of the Tour is a disgrace for the sport and the fans.
Indeed. A win is a win.I suppose he meant the TTT.
He did amazing in the Basque Country. So why didn't he go to FW and LBL?Vingegaard in 2023:
O Gran Camino: 3 stage wins and the overall.
Paris Nice: 1 stage win and 3d on GC.
Itzulia: 3 stage wins and the overall.
He's going to ride Dauphine next week (and will probably win that as well).
It's Pogacar who's the anomaly. Vingegaard has tried the classics but somehow he just can't do it. So now he's decided to focus on stage racing. What is wrong with that? As for being a boring person, some of us don't just look at who smiles at the camera the most to find the most interesting personality.
No. It's a Jumbo win.Indeed. A win is a win.
Just because Remco rides LBL he's a gift and Vingegaard is not? Ridiculous. You could even argue that Remco shuns the real opposition he could get in the Tour, something Vingegaard clearly is not afraid of.He did amazing in the Basque Country. But why didn't he go to FW and LBL?
Pogacar and Remco is just on different level for the sport and a true gift for all cycling fans. End of story.
No. It's a Jumbo win.
Pogi is amazing, there's no doubt about that. But to now judge every rider by Pogi standards is a bit unfair, don't you think? Pogi is maybe the best allround cyclist ever, but Vingegaard might just be the best 3 week stage racer at this moment. Give him his due.
Yea..why is he banned? He always has intereting tid bitsthis guy is our forum Dutch Ciro scognamiglio, he has sources from deep within the Jumbo establishments and share insights from his conversations with WVA, he shouldn't be banned
Is there an agelimit on the forum? I wonder how many 12 year old are here giving expert analysis.
Andy did, at least in LBL—a pretty spectacular win and a podium finish during Gilbert’s win. He also did Flèche most years as well.Contadors rivals didn't do much in monuments either so it wasn't much of a stick to beat him with.
That's really the only race outside of the Tour you used to see Andy Schleck in. Compared to him Vingegaard is an all season superstar.Andy did, at least in LBL—a pretty spectacular win and a podium finish during Gilbert’s win. He also did Flèche most years as well.
I was responding to the statement “ Contador’s rivals didn’t do much in monuments either,” and I think a win and another podium in a monument fora GC guy of that era counts as “much.” Wasn’t trying to imply anything beyond that.That's really the only race outside of the Tour you used to see Andy Schleck in. Compared to him Vingegaard is an all season superstar.
Nice. Although UAE have the worst netional jerseys ever, hardly even different from the regular jersey.