Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Cinemaniak]

People keep blabbing about Evenepoel, Bernal, Sosa and Gaudu... but this guy is a serious contender to rule them all. Consistent, level-headed, great TT.. you name it.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

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People keep blabbing about Evenepoel, Bernal, Sosa and Gaudu... but this guy is a serious contender to rule them all. Consistent, level-headed, great TT.. you name it.

I rate him, but i don't think he currently reaches Bernal's level. But he's also roughly 18 months younger. And he's also roughly 18 months older than Evenepoel. These guys are in different stages of their development. I don't know which one will end up top dog in 6 years time, but they are all exciting riders.

 

[Lequack]

Humongous ride today through all the climbs and everything. Kudos to him. Also climbed to 6th overall as well and won the young riders GC.

 

[Lequack]

He says he's going to ride the remaining classics without expectation really, but he will now be skipping Romandie at the end of April to focus solely on Tour of California in May, which is his goal. He's also riding the local Tour of Slovenia in June and also expecting to ride his first Grand Tour next year in 2020.

 

[Mayomaniac]

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He says he's going to ride the remaining classics without expectation really, but he will now be skipping Romandie at the end of April to focus solely on Tour of California in May, which is his goal. He's also riding the local Tour of Slovenia in June and also expecting to ride his first Grand Tour next year in 2020.

Sounds like a reasonable schedule for him.

 

[Red Rick]

Yup. Sadly the 2nd half of the season is a bit underwhelming for tbose who dont do GTs yet

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Yup. Sadly the 2nd half of the season is a bit underwhelming for tbose who dont do GTs yet

Well theres Pologne and lots of Italian one day classics and probably a fair amount of races I have forgotten. Deutchland Tour should also be decent for a rider like him.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Last week Le Quack posted that he wouldn't ride Romandie. Until yesterday, his name had a star next to it on the procyclingstats startlist. I assumed that that was because his participation wasn't confirmed or something. But today his name is still in the startlist, but without the star next to it. So, first question, what does the star mean, next to a name in the startlist? And secondly, has it been confirmed that he will not participate?

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Didn't see him much, but he finished in the same group as Wellens, Alaphilippe, Bardet, De Plus...at 1m29s. Pretty solid imho.

 

[Lequack]

Yeah very solid. Also not sure if anyone noticed but he doesn't ever seem to wear gloves, and he was gloveless today as well despite the cold and the rain. Just an interesting observation.

 

[Robert5091]

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Last week Le Quack posted that he wouldn't ride Romandie. Until yesterday, his name had a star next to it on the procyclingstats startlist. I assumed that that was because his participation wasn't confirmed or something. But today his name is still in the startlist, but without the star next to it. So, first question, what does the star mean, next to a name in the startlist? And secondly, has it been confirmed that he will not participate?

From the startlists I've seen, the star/asterisk next to a rider's name means he's/she's young enough to compete in the young riders cometition.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

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From the startlists I've seen, the star/asterisk next to a rider's name means he's/she's young enough to compete in the young riders cometition.

Must have been something else now, because the star has gone now, and i remember somebody else with a star who was definitely too old. Can't remember who it was, maybe Thomas. Also, Evenepoel didn't have a star, so it must have been something else.

 

[Lequack]

“The weather was awful and it was cold all day. When the pace went up hard, I felt ok, but not super good. I was dropped on the last climb,bbut I managed to come back.”
“I am satisfied: during the week, I had bad luck in the other two races, today I got this good performance and I am happy.”

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Is that Philipsen in the middle?

 

[roundabout]

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From the startlists I've seen, the star/asterisk next to a rider's name means he's/she's young enough to compete in the young riders cometition.

Must have been something else now, because the star has gone now, and i remember somebody else with a star who was definitely too old. Can't remember who it was, maybe Thomas. Also, Evenepoel didn't have a star, so it must have been something else.

used to be for substitute riders

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Makes sense. It assumed it was for "not yet 100% confirmed", but close enough.

 

[Lequack]

He's going to the Tour of California as the designated leader, pretty crazy!
http://www.uaeteamemirates.com/pogacar-guida-luae-team-emirates-nel-tour-california/

Tadej Pogačar, in his first year in a World Tour team, has already shown his enormous talent: “I will try to fight for a good result in the general classification, hoping to still be able to count on the good form that has supported me in all the races of this first part of the season.
It was a great start to the year for me, I learned a lot and at the same time, I pulled in some important results.
I have great enthusiasm and I’m happy to go racing in the United States, where I competed only in Richmond in 2015, when I was in the junior world championship“.

He's not going to have much in the form of backup though with mostly young guys going, but it's a great opportunity for him.

 

[Lequack]

He's in a very good position so far, 16 seconds behind TJVG. Hope he goes well on Mt Baldy.

 

[Lequack]

I guess when he said Tour of California was his goal he wasn't kidding.

 

[Koronin]

Impressive ride up Mt Baldy.

 

[johnymax]

One of the most impressive neo-pros in recent memory. Since Sagan I can think only of Bernal and Gaviria who are in conversation. In Bernal's case it depends on the year you are taking into account. His first Androni year or his first Sky year.

 

[Jancouver]

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One of the most impressive neo-pros in recent memory. Since Sagan I can think only of Bernal and Gaviria who are in conversation. In Bernal's case it depends on the year you are taking into account. His first Androni year or his first Sky year.

I agree, very impressive!

I cannot wait for next year when Remco will be at Pogačar's age (Pogačar is about 1 year and 4 months older) and winning WT races just like Pogačar is this year.

We will be in for some great entertainment when these two talented youngers will be battling it out. Hopefully, both will make it to California next year.

The question is, are these long steady California climbs suited to Remco's diesel engine?

 

[jmdirt]

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He's going to the Tour of California as the designated leader, pretty crazy!
http://www.uaeteamemirates.com/pogacar-guida-luae-team-emirates-nel-tour-california/

Tadej Pogačar, in his first year in a World Tour team, has already shown his enormous talent: “I will try to fight for a good result in the general classification, hoping to still be able to count on the good form that has supported me in all the races of this first part of the season.
It was a great start to the year for me, I learned a lot and at the same time, I pulled in some important results.
I have great enthusiasm and I’m happy to go racing in the United States, where I competed only in Richmond in 2015, when I was in the junior world championship“.

He's not going to have much in the form of backup though with mostly young guys going, but it's a great opportunity for him.

...winning is a good result!

 

[Mayomaniac]

Great win. The guy has been going up against pros like Majka in the tour of slovenia since he was 18 years old, I think that is really helping him long term, shows you how useful ct teams can be.

 

[KZD]

Another huge display of strength on Mt Baldy. He will win the Tour of California even younger than Bernal did. It would be really interesting to see him ride a Grand Tour but it seems we will have to wait until next year.