- Feb 18, 2015
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I admit people claiming Pog is a much better climber were rare (though they existed). But lots of people were claiming that nothing would sperate the two in the mountains until about two hours ago. I mean Pogacar still got more votes in the pre race poll.
- Mar 13, 2009
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considering Vingegaard did 6.9 w/kg for 22 minutes and Pogacar was 35s behind on the climb it's unlikely to say Pogacar is far from his best.
He is super close to his best I'd say
I would have to look into who said that, but wouldnt take those people very serious.
Maybe Pog just have more people, who are rooting for him. He is an entertaining rider, who can win many different type of races. Who has won many different type of races.
With said, I am not saying Vingegaard or someone else isnt entertaining. Today was a great show.
- Jul 25, 2015
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I don't believe Pog is far off his best if at all. He went ~40s faster today than he did in 2020 going pretty hard.
Looking at what Rogla has done at th Vuelta in recent years after serious Tour crashes really put into perspective how close to 100% these guys can be after injuries.
His busy spring could be just as much to blame but tbh i just think Pog is at 99% and it woudn't have made much of a difference either way.
Looking at what Rogla has done at th Vuelta in recent years after serious Tour crashes really put into perspective how close to 100% these guys can be after injuries.
His busy spring could be just as much to blame but tbh i just think Pog is at 99% and it woudn't have made much of a difference either way.
- Aug 6, 2014
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- Jul 16, 2015
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I'm just quoting my post here because after reviewing the finale a bit, the absolute only benefit UAE got from pacing today was in making sure Wout van Aert & Benoot weren't ahead of Vingegaard over the top of Marie Blanque. Because that could have been a disaster right there & then in the form of two Jumbo riders pulling Vingegaard to the line. I also don't see how they're able to stop that scenario from repeating over the coming two weeks. It looks bad tbh (i.e. Pog's hopes in this Tour).
UAE obviously had no inclination Pog was going to be dropped today at all.
The comparisation isn´t Pog vs VIngegaard. Even if we assume that he exploded trying to chase Vingegaard he should be able to drop Kuss. Shouldn´t be caught by the group behind. Pogacar being worse than Vingegaard on a hard climb is a likely outcome. Pogacar being on the same/a similar level than the next 5-10 guys isn´t.
- Jul 17, 2021
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In his top shape he would not be dropped in stage 5. But any way. It is what it is.
- Jan 31, 2016
- 3,611
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And they executed perfectly to launch Jonas today. If they hadn't chased that hard right up to the launch point on the last climb Pogacar might have a teammate with him to mitigate the disaster. There was lot's of downhill and flats to chase if he had any help and wasn't totally blown off by Jonas. Even a control that lasted 2km longer would have helped.
- May 29, 2019
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- 11,583
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So Pogi is an in between generation champion. Giro was much better as it wasn't over on stage 5 ...
On a more serious note i hope Urška is well. As for the Tour. Jonas was better today on stage 5. Still the Tour only just started. I feel that proclaiming the winner at this point would be silly. That is Jai still has long way to defend. I suspect this Tour edition still has something to give. Cards got revealed early. We'll see.
On a more serious note i hope Urška is well. As for the Tour. Jonas was better today on stage 5. Still the Tour only just started. I feel that proclaiming the winner at this point would be silly. That is Jai still has long way to defend. I suspect this Tour edition still has something to give. Cards got revealed early. We'll see.
- Jan 31, 2016
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I agree but he is paying the price for being in the front constantly to snatch bonus points. Fans were critical of Jonas for not doing that as though he was a weaker wheelsucker. It all adds up and the inability to get out of the saddle to accelerate seems more like race fatigue rather than lack of form.
- Sep 14, 2019
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I agree, even when Vingegaard just started his attack, it seemed like Pogacar was already near the red, he barely responded lol
- Aug 13, 2011
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But Vinge was also at the front the last two days riding at a high pace in the run up to the sprints for awhile and rode for the bonus seconds as well.
- May 29, 2011
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This.
More generally: Has Pogi posted goofy and/or mockingly selfies from today, btw?
- Aug 29, 2011
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- Jul 7, 2013
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Way to dramatic. Pogacar has won two TdF and beat Vingegaard in one of them.
But yeah, Skeletor is becoming Baba Yaga in Teddy's almost perfect world.
- Aug 29, 2011
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- 2,089
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Meh in spring people were wondering how Pogacar could hope to beat MvdP in Ronde and almost calling the Dutchman his kryptonite.
After all, could Pogacar really be THAT much stronger so that he could drop Mathieu?
Dropping 7 kg may have been a bit too much in hindsight tho.
After all, could Pogacar really be THAT much stronger so that he could drop Mathieu?
Dropping 7 kg may have been a bit too much in hindsight tho.
- Jun 1, 2015
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This is exactly what we all said, myself included, last year when Quintana, G, and Gaudu passed him on Granon. However, this time, he was actually faster than the next 5-10 people on GC. Only Kuss was there with him right? The others caught him on the descent, and I think he waited for them to get assistance.
- May 29, 2019
- 11,050
- 11,583
- 23,180
- Mar 13, 2009
- 29,413
- 3,482
- 28,180
no but I heard Van Aert mocked Pogi after the finish saying Pog ijust didn't have the legs
- May 29, 2011
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- 1,651
- 16,680
That's just mean.no but I heard Van Aert mocked Pogi after the finish saying Pog ijust didn't have the legs
- Mar 13, 2009
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- 3,482
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it is, but that makes it more worrying. It wasn't a high altitude climb. It wasn't a long climb. It wasn't a particularly extreme stage. 3 things which were considered to be needed to drop Pogacar.
In fact, this was a Pogacar climb. Yet he got dropped hard. It's just all the more worrying. Vingegaard took another step this year imo.
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