He does if he wants to get through it in the best shape possible, to have SOME chance in the Tour against Vingo. His Giro prep and race don't exist in a vacuum..
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- Aug 3, 2015
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I dno, Pog is still the overwhelming favorite in the Giro and can win it with one leg.
Not that I agree he should do Roubaix in a Giro-Tour season.
Perhaps he could, but the point is, it's doubtful that's the optimal prep. Altitude camp and Giro, done correctly, has the possibility to see him in better shape than he's ever been, which he will need if he is to have a shot at Vingo. Many seem to assume he will come out of the Giro tired and less than 100% for the Tour, but I'm not so sure. A Pog in this kind of shape, nearing his physical prime, just might be the guy who could come out of an altitude camp and the Giro totally flying. In for a penny, in for a pound.
- Sep 12, 2022
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With proper training, a bit more weight he would be more suited for it
- Jan 31, 2016
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Sounds like his biggest test was getting the song in his head for the last 2 hrs to go away. His interview at the finish is all I've seen and it's pretty good. Middle of the race was tough and no one responded to his effort to thin the small front pack.
After that it's all your own rythm, which is good aside from the song....
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- May 14, 2011
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Any attempt at the Giro is usually sub optimal prep for the TdF but not the double. Not sure where altitude training fits in but why would trying to win the Giro underdone* leave you sub optimally prepared for the TdF? It might actually result in the opposite with this guy?
How else can he realistically optimize for the Giro/Tour double?
*Remember the Giro this year has less climbing and the competition doesn't look very stiff although there are a bunch of 2nd tier contenders. So depending how the Giro is raced there is a chance Pogacar won't be cooked and his body recovers just in time for the TdF.
- Jun 7, 2011
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I am hoping for no injuries or crashes for him this season
- Jun 7, 2011
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I am sure in the past he has said if he goes for it he would want to be heavier. So, I don’t foresee any scenario in 2024 he goes for PR
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- Jul 7, 2013
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Wow! 81-km solo win to kickstart the season. Teddy once again confirms that he's an excellent one-day racer who can climb a bit. But can he climb like real men in the Giro mountains?
- Jul 4, 2023
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Is Evenepoel racing MSR? If he is then that will be great for Pogi as he will be the best Domestique Tadej could ask for. However, I think it's unlikely for him to win as we saw that he was so far away from dropping van der Poel last year that he was dropped himself. I don't see how attacking earlier will help because then the riders would just be less tired when he attacks and Pogi will probably wear himself out trying to drop them like last year. Having Evenepoel there would help if he attacks first but even so, I can't see it being enough. Although if he is significantly stronger then maybe. I think his best chance is if the weather is awful and there is crosswinds and the race gets split earlier on. Then there is a lot more fatigue and some riders will miss the split. As for Paris Roubaix, Pogi trained specifically for Flanders last year and I think that is close to his limit in terms of type of races. I think that is too flat for him. unless he totally trains differently
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Bruyneel said in a podcast last year the last person to successfully do this was in the 1990's (I think. And I can't remember who he said). And strongly suggested it was because of that 'era... wink wink' and that it could not be done in today's peloton. Everyone too fast, too strong, and a group would catch that person on the straight before the poggio.
- Jul 7, 2013
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MVP is normally #1 favourite at MSR due to his cycling assets (superb explosivity and descending). But doesn't he need some races before he hits his peak form? MSR is his first road race of the season AFAIK and Pogi is already in red hot form.
- May 3, 2010
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Strongest points of today:
- Announcing where and when he was going to attack.
- Good team performance by Wellens and Del Toro.
- Pretty decent solo ride through rain and hail.
- Facial expressions while on camera.
- He showed the brand of his bike after crossing the line.
- Cute bobble hat with pom-pom during the podium ceremony.
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Well, MVDP did ride MSR as his first race of the season in 2022 and he finished 3rd (He was not in red hot form though. He was just following wheels). Different conditions though. In 2022, he was coming off that back issue from his Olympics MTB crash. This time, he's trying to peak again after being in red hot form throughout the CX season.
- Jun 7, 2010
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1996 I think was the last time that a group formed on the Cipressa stayed away to the finish. But that was a group of 4 ultimately and not a single person.
Edit: also seems like the chase was very unorganized for whatever reason
- Jul 7, 2013
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At some point in the future, probably. But not in a Giro-Tour year. He looks thinner than normally early in the season. He already looks like during TdF, they may have found a way to make him thinner than ever for the double.
- Sep 12, 2022
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Indeed, but some people said I was wrong for saying not this year because he needs different type of training and be a bit heavier
- May 29, 2019
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Take note, all would-be challengers, this Teddy is the leanest and meanest yet. They must have figured a drop in body fat percentage, without losing power, ups his power to weight ratio; as the only way to beat Vingegaard in July. Although it's only March, it looks like they have succeeded in the upgraded version of Tadej. Looking forward to what further feats he may pull off in the future.
- Sep 14, 2009
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They used liposuction on his face ... fat deposits there don't help performance.
Hold my drink, I'll be going now
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