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Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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One trend that I have been noticing with Pogačar in one day races is that he is winning them in an increasingly impressive fashion

- Liège 2021 he won a 5 men sprint and actually struggled a bit in the uphill rise after Roche Aux Faucons

- Lombardia 2021 he actually went solo on Passo di Ganda but then legend Masnada brought him back and Pogi had to beat him in the sprint

- Strade 2022 solo on Monte Sante Marie but finishes 'just' some 40 seconds ahead of Valverde.

- Grand Prix Montreal 2022 wins a five men sprint

- Lombardia 2022 exchanges blows with Mas before beating him in the sprint

- Ronde 2023 drops two time winner Van der Poel in the last Oude Kwaremont then solos to the finish with around 20 seconds to spare

-Amstel 2023 goes solo some 30km from the finish line after dropping Pidcock and Healy gets a little help along the way to beat Healy by around 40/50? seconds

- Flèche 2023 this one was just an uphill sprint up Mur d'Huy as usual

- Lombardia 2023 drops a reduced group on the first of the descent of Passo di Ganda, wins with around a minute.

- Strade 2024 drops everyone on Monte Sante Marie 81km from the finish line to win with more than 2:30 minutes.

This shows that not only Pogačar is one of the best stage racers of this generation, he is also one of the best one day riders of the last decades, dare I say, and it seems that he is getting even better at them so I am convinced yesterday was the beginning of a legendary season.

Very true. Still young and still getting better and better!
 
In a way it's good for Pog and cycling that Vingo actually beat him in the last two TdFs. He would've less fans and motivation otherwise and there would be less suspence in GTs!
Yes, pog has a legit foil in Vingo.

Pog might be more inclined to focus on the tdf if he hadn’t won it twice already. That he can look elsewhere for challenges that exhibit his all around qualities is also good for cycling
 
Heroic, epic but boring ride at Strade Bianche. Normally you wonder about why a competitor is throwing away his chances if attacking 80km from the finish line. Seeing this from Tadej I just thought: Ok, race is over. Everyone else is riding for 2nd place. There wasnt even a doubt in my head about him staying away 80km from the peloton, or grupetto as Pidcock described them. Impressive ride but deciding a race with 80km to go is a bit boring. Broadcast just started. Come on man, let us have some fun watching...
It’s like we all knew ahead of time coverage was making a mistake with only the showing less than half the race.
 
Heroic, epic but boring ride at Strade Bianche. Normally you wonder about why a competitor is throwing away his chances if attacking 80km from the finish line. Seeing this from Tadej I just thought: Ok, race is over. Everyone else is riding for 2nd place. There wasnt even a doubt in my head about him staying away 80km from the peloton, or grupetto as Pidcock described them. Impressive ride but deciding a race with 80km to go is a bit boring. Broadcast just started. Come on man, let us have some fun watching...
Ask the other galacticos why they didn't bother to sign on.
 
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"A bit of talent" some of his colleagues might take a little offence. He clearly is one of the most genetically gifted riders racing right now. Many train just as hard, without the gifts he was born with.
There is absolutely noone who would get offended by his statement. He even put his team before everything else in that statement. What was he supposed to say even: you need to have a lot of talent which my colleagues don’t have and they can work as hard as they like but still we’ll see each other in the douches? 🤪
 
Does anybody think that Pogacar's explosivity may actually suffer this spring (due to seemingly lower mass) and MSR could be even more difficult than before? MVP being in worse shape than last year (due to no races before) may be his biggest hope.

The lottery of MSR aside, I don't think it's beyond him to win all five monuments in the same year if he built a season around it

In theory, yes. Larger body mass in the spring followed by trimming down for Lombardy.
 
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Does anybody think that Pogacar's explosivity may actually suffer this spring (due to seemingly lower mass) and MSR could be even more difficult than before? MVP being in worse shape than last year (due to no races before) may be his biggest hope.



In theory, yes. Larger body mass in the spring followed by trimming down for Lombardy.

I am always a bit bearish regarding Pogačar's chances in MSR but I don't think he will be any worse this year and not riding Paris Nice or Tirreno could mean that he is fresher for that race.

Still we have to keep in mind that his biggest one day race goal even above winning all five monuments is becoming World Champion.
 
I am always a bit bearish regarding Pogačar's chances in MSR but I don't think he will be any worse this year and not riding Paris Nice or Tirreno could mean that he is fresher for that race.

Still we have to keep in mind that his biggest one day race goal even above winning all five monuments is becoming World Champion.
The problem for Pogacar is that even if he goes more fresher, the route is a lot easy, so it's difficult to do better than last year.
 
The problem for Pogacar is that even if he goes more fresher, the route is a lot easy, so it's difficult to do better than last year.

The route will be identical to last year so Pogačar's problem will be dropping the likes of Van der Poel and Pedersen and keep them from coming back. This is why I don't think he will win but his chances are not smaller than last year especially with Van Aert not doing the race.
 
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The route will be identical to last year so Pogačar's problem will be dropping the likes of Van der Poel and Pedersen and keep them from coming back. This is why I don't think he will win but his chances are not smaller than last year especially with Van Aert not doing the race.
Like he did the past two years he needs to go all out on the Poggio, and see who's left. If no one is left, good, if MVDP is left, barely take any turns.
 
Matxin is the best scout in the world and has top contacts in the world, as a tactician he is 0 and persistently interferes in the work of DS, the only DS expert in that team at an acceptable level is Fabio Baldato, 2+2 is always 4, if Pogacar is so far was trained by a quasi-trainer who only prescribed endurance rides of 5W/kg and FTP 15 min intervals 2 times a week after zone 2 and the rest of his training was based on prescribing training from training peaks, imagine what can happen when a top-level coach takes over Sola, if one Yates progressed from 32 years old after 1 year of working with him, how much Pogi will progress 🤭, UAE has the best TT setup in the world, Pogačar finally has a coach who trains him with a Core device for heat training and for the first time you could see Pogacar in Strade Bianche to wear Core attached to a heart rate strap, he finally has real training and intervals for hills for the first time in his career and he will have properly conducted altitude training after the Giro, I can't tell you how I know all that, but believe me I have insight firsthand in all that, how else would I show you Pogačar's part from training on 24.2.2024 and that his 349w is 5.33w/kg as a base training and FTP 431w, that he will be 20% better is frankly a little too hasty, but if could predict for the Giro Pogacar will be at 65 kg, at both TTs he will win, at 15 min he will have 7.3 w/kg, at 20 min 7 w/kg, at 30 min hill 6.7 and at 40+ min hill he will have 6.5 w/ kg and on the Tour kg less and the strength is the same, so if Vingegard gets that from me, he has 👏👏👏👏
 
currently Pogacar on a 20 min hill has 6.7 w/kg after 4 hours of driving of 5w/kg and the plan is for the Giro to have 6.9w/kg and for the tour 7.0w/kg, Javier Sola is currently basing his training on 5 and 20 min power , after Catalunya there will be 30+ min of hills and at Altitude after Giro 40+ min of hills, don't forget that I have a code from Pogačar Training peaks and that I know what is being done at all times, TT training was seriously approached and I can only tell you that in the middle of February, a TT was held between Pogacar, Bjerg and Ayuso on a 30 km pan flat course in Valencia and the results were as follows: Bjerg 33:58, Ayuso 33:40, Pogačar 32.44, so much for Ayuso, the best TT, quality intervals were introduced in Pogacarev training, it's no longer boring like 4 hours ago Inigo zone 2, training was introduced 2 times a week on a TT bike, heat training with Core was introduced, private exercises were introduced in Monaco with Alex Bacilli, a top expert, briefly imagine what Pogacar was like until 2024 and what will it be like with all these improvements in equipment and training and San Millan can continue to train Ayuso, Almeida and Mcnulty and ask yourself how much those 3 have progressed and how much they needed considering the talent, this Pogačar from Strade Bianche is at 85 %, for the Giro there will be no savings and it will be at 100%, and for the Tour everything is planned as for the Giro, only 1 kg less, i.e. 64 kg
 
currently Pogacar on a 20 min hill has 6.7 w/kg after 4 hours of driving of 5w/kg and the plan is for the Giro to have 6.9w/kg and for the tour 7.0w/kg, Javier Sola is currently basing his training on 5 and 20 min power , after Catalunya there will be 30+ min of hills and at Altitude after Giro 40+ min of hills, don't forget that I have a code from Pogačar Training peaks and that I know what is being done at all times, TT training was seriously approached and I can only tell you that in the middle of February, a TT was held between Pogacar, Bjerg and Ayuso on a 30 km pan flat course in Valencia and the results were as follows: Bjerg 33:58, Ayuso 33:40, Pogačar 32.44, so much for Ayuso, the best TT, quality intervals were introduced in Pogacarev training, it's no longer boring like 4 hours ago Inigo zone 2, training was introduced 2 times a week on a TT bike, heat training with Core was introduced, private exercises were introduced in Monaco with Alex Bacilli, a top expert, briefly imagine what Pogacar was like until 2024 and what will it be like with all these improvements in equipment and training and San Millan can continue to train Ayuso, Almeida and Mcnulty and ask yourself how much those 3 have progressed and how much they needed considering the talent, this Pogačar from Strade Bianche is at 85 %, for the Giro there will be no savings and it will be at 100%, and for the Tour everything is planned as for the Giro, only 1 kg less, i.e. 64 kg
Really hope he doesn't improve much, vingegaard neither. It's already ridiculous and a net loss for entertainment quite often.
 
best grand tour selection: Bjerg (Pollit), Domen Novak (Pogi assistant, water bottles, gels, protection from the wind), Wellens (Pogi man for mild and explosive hills), Morgado (for covering the escape in the initial 50km on medium hills), Majka (road captain Pogi, the most important man for the atmosphere in the team and for the 1st tow on the hills), Del Toro (the tow of more serious attacks 2-3 tiers-Hindley, Kuss), Yates (the last man for big hills), Pogi..... ..everyone else is either not good enough or brings a problem to the team