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Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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Due to proximity we Slovenians likely value Giro a bit higher then an average cycling fan. So i believe Pogi just honestly wants to add Giro to his palmares. As for the Tour, you win some you lose some. It's not like Pogi or Jonas or ... can change that.

But then there is the worlds, considering the route Pogi for sure has that set as a main goal too. So for starters lets do Giro first and if Pogi wins overall then he already has a successful GC season in his bag. The rest is bonus.
 
But then there is the worlds, considering the route Pogi for sure has that set as a main goal too. So for starters lets do Giro first and if Pogi wins overall then he already has a successful GC season in his bag. The rest is bonus.
I don't think doing both the Giro in May and the Tour in July is the optimal path towards the Worlds in September. Rather the opposite: it's the worst prep he can have. So it's not a consideration that should favour Giro participation.
 
The same users who think the Giro will benefit him as a preparation for the Tour, will be the same users who will use that as an "excuse" if he fades again in the Tour.
If he wins the double, all of the doubters up to that point will be no where to be found. This is how it goes online. We don’t have to do the work. We just think we know what it takes
 
If he wins the double, all of the doubters up to that point will be no where to be found. This is how it goes online. We don’t have to do the work. We just think we know what it takes
Few if no regulars here disappear after a wrong prediction. I for one certainly expect to still be around by time of the Vuelta.

So you'll know where to find this doubter.
 
I have a conspiracy theory that after 4 years of only riding the Tour Pogacar just really wants to ride the Giro
Okay. How is that a conspiracy?

I too believe that he really wants to ride the Giro, even if I don't think that's because of a conspiracy. I also don't see any contradiction between that and my point that his decision indicates that he doesn't believe that he is likely to beat Vingegaard in the Tour.
 
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Okay. How is that a conspiracy?

I too believe that he really wants to ride the Giro, even if I don't think that's because of a conspiracy. I also don't see any contradiction between that and my point that his decision indicates that he doesn't believe that he is likely to beat Vingegaard in the Tour.
It's a conspiracy because it is so simple, only him and one other person probably hatched the plan that he would just really love to ride the Giro win-lose-or draw.
 
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Okay. How is that a conspiracy?

I too believe that he really wants to ride the Giro, even if I don't think that's because of a conspiracy. I also don't see any contradiction between that and my point that his decision indicates that he doesn't believe that he is likely to beat Vingegaard in the Tour.
I think he's the underdog at the Tour, but not a gigantic one like Roglic. He still has a decent shot, say 30-40%. And I also think we think differently about how the Giro should affect his Tour. It's 2024, I don't really think the Giro-Tour double is as impossibe as it used to be, we just have a complete lack of top GC riders attempting it.

The conspiracy thing is just a joke
 
I too think that the double is possible now (I also think Froome would have pulled it off if he had been lucky), and I think there's a good chance for someone to pull it off within the next five years. But I think it's harder than Tour-Vuelta, and both Vingegaard and Pogi are so good right now that if one of them has the Giro in his legs it will be very hard to beat the other in the Tour. Harder still if you are the (slightly) weaker of the two.