Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[scribers]

If Poggi wins MSR, I think he would give PR a try.

Now this is a hot take if you mean in this spring!

 

[meat puppet]

If he wins the double, all of the doubters up to that point will be no where to be found. This is how it goes online. We don’t have to do the work. We just think we know what it takes

This is both very accurate and wildly incorrect. For starters, I'm a doubter and if he pulls it off, I'll be mildly vocal in the clinic 🤔😆

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Is he the same guy that created Team Sky's special black fabric?

Possibly. I didn't know about his existence before the start of mou's UAELeaks.

 

[scribers]

Okay. How is that a conspiracy?

I too believe that he really wants to ride the Giro, even if I don't think that's because of a conspiracy. I also don't see any contradiction between that and my point that his decision indicates that he doesn't believe that he is likely to beat Vingegaard in the Tour.

It's a conspiracy because it is so simple, only him and one other person probably hatched the plan that he would just really love to ride the Giro win-lose-or draw.

 

[scribers]

This is both very accurate and wildly incorrect. For starters, I'm a doubter and if he pulls it off, I'll be mildly vocal in the clinic 🤔😆

After everything we've been through, I will be in there too.

 

[AmRacer]

Now this is a hot take if you mean in this spring!

I mean this spring. If he wins his fourth different monument, he must give the last one a shot.

 

[Red Rick]

Okay. How is that a conspiracy?

I too believe that he really wants to ride the Giro, even if I don't think that's because of a conspiracy. I also don't see any contradiction between that and my point that his decision indicates that he doesn't believe that he is likely to beat Vingegaard in the Tour.

I think he's the underdog at the Tour, but not a gigantic one like Roglic. He still has a decent shot, say 30-40%. And I also think we think differently about how the Giro should affect his Tour. It's 2024, I don't really think the Giro-Tour double is as impossibe as it used to be, we just have a complete lack of top GC riders attempting it.

The conspiracy thing is just a joke

 

[Netserk]

I too think that the double is possible now (I also think Froome would have pulled it off if he had been lucky), and I think there's a good chance for someone to pull it off within the next five years. But I think it's harder than Tour-Vuelta, and both Vingegaard and Pogi are so good right now that if one of them has the Giro in his legs it will be very hard to beat the other in the Tour. Harder still if you are the (slightly) weaker of the two.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

If wrong predictions resulted in a sense of shame or self-imposed abandonment, the forum would be down to ten users.

Me and who else?

It's a joke.

 

[Salvarani]

If wrong predictions resulted in a sense of shame or self-imposed abandonment, the forum would be down to ten users.

I think you overestimate the wrong predictions.

There is just a bunch, who are always wrong but they be the loudest/most insufferable ones.

 

[scribers]

I mean this spring. If he wins his fourth different monument, he must give the last one a shot.

I personally think if this Giro campaign is successful, he will do at least 2-4 more years of spring classics campaigns. Health and luck necessary!

 

[Extinction]

I don't think doing both the Giro in May and the Tour in July is the optimal path towards the Worlds in September. Rather the opposite: it's the worst prep he can have. So it's not a consideration that should favour Giro participation.

But it is if he can replicate Stephen Roache in 87 and make cycling legendary again.

 

[Netserk]

But it is if he can replicate Stephen Roache in 87 and make cycling legendary again.

There are 4 weeks more from the Tour to the Worlds this year than in 1987.

 

[scribers]

Apparently, he will be winning the Olympics too with that time.

 

[Froome]

The heat? I thought it was the wrist.

 

[Netserk]

The heat? I thought it was the wrist.

I think it all adds up.

 

[Elos Anjos]

Me and who else?

It's a joke.

You're being toxic.

It's a joke .

 

[Froome]

I think it all adds up.

Heat, wrist, spring classics, emirates tatics, individual mistakes by attacking too much, and next year The Giro. I think i'm not missing anything.

 

[AmRacer]

Heat, wrist, spring classics, emirates tatics, individual mistakes by attacking too much, and next year The Giro. I think i'm not missing anything.

His weight...

 

[Elos Anjos]

I recall Vingo fans claiming that the Tour and stomach problems as reasons for Vingo's demise in the Vuelta TT.

The line between excuses and facts is blurred by one's own bias. Yet another friendly reminder that no one holds the higher ground.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

All these Tour excuses all bulls**t. Teddy has an unequalled metabolism but it just can't deal with fishes!

 

[scribers]

The heat? I thought it was the wrist.

He didn't want to hurt vingo's fans fragile egos

See? I can fall for troll bait too you trickster!!

 

[scribers]

I recall Vingo fans claiming that the Tour and stomach problems as reasons for Vingo's demise in the Vuelta TT.

The line between excuses and facts is blurred by one's own bias. Yet another friendly reminder that no one holds the higher ground.

Thanks for pointing this out! At some point, vingo has to show some flashes of july in other parts of the year. That unassailable form that even Pogi says he does not have on his best day.

 

[Extinction]

There are 4 weeks more from the Tour to the Worlds this year than in 1987.

Then he can pick up an Olympic gold along the way, if he's doing the RR.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Profile of Olympic RR is less suitable for Slovenian duo, compared to Worlds RR, that should suit them perfect.