Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[bNator]

No, read again, this is what you are saying, repeating nonsense. I never said such thing. On top of that Messi is an Olympic gold medallist.

P.S. Unless you are referring to other post and not the quoted one. Theoretical question if Pogi would be prepared to trade an abundance of titles from a race won in pro cycling for an Olympic gold medal. In terms of regretting he didn't went for it. In my opinion yes, he will regret it. But here i agree that this is my take on it. Future Pogi is yet to come and if not sooner lets see in four years time, on what his attitude towards Olympics will be.

The fact that absolutely nobody knows or cares about which proves the point of those you are trying to mock out of their (correct) assessment about the value of OG title in cycling.

 

[Escarabajo]

There are so many things happening that I cannot explain. The last time I felt this lost was in 1991.

There could be a new rider breaking out at la Vuelta. Who knows. Let's be patience and enjoy.

 

[CyclistAbi]

@bNator

Messi seem to care enough to go and win it and he is GOAT too. So please, cut with the BS, on how Pogi is in the right here, ditching Olympics, due to people now arguing Olympic medal in cycling has no real value. Only due to Pogi not participating.

 

[scribers]

Now we’ve entered the “pogi racing a GT will severely devalue consequences “ era.

The next 6 years are going to destroy cycling

 

[bNator]

@bNator

Messi seem to care enough to go and win it and he is GOAT too. So please, cut with the BS, on how Pogi is in the right here, ditching Olympics, due to people now arguing Olympic medal in cycling has no real value. Only due to Pogi not participating.

Who are you to say he is right or wrong anyway? It's his decision, you should accept it. I think he did enough to earn @CyclistAbi's blessing.. And if you think OG have greater value than what Pog has been winning this year, then maybe you just don't understand cycling.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Now we’ve entered the “pogi racing a GT will severely devalue consequences “ era.

The next 6 years are going to destroy cycling

From sports side of things possibly, financially they will be good. Like F1, from sports side of thing a turd, financially great. Hopefully not, as here other factors are at play too, it can't be made into F1, due to machines not being the focal point of the sport. We'll see.

 

[scribers]

All time greats have ALWAYS elevated a sport.

 

[Divergence]

I was listening to G's podcast this morning and I was pretty surprised by what Pog said to him about the Vuelta. It makes absolutely 0 sense to not go to the race because Ayuso would not like that. What are UAE thinking. They should just gather everybody and remind them who Pog is and what he has done and allow any dissenting voices to quit the team before being fired.

 

[fbjim]

i am glad pog is not doing the vuelta because this race is going to be peak without him there. he can content himself with winning worlds after a 95km solo

 

[CyclistAbi]

Who are you to say he is right or wrong anyway? It's his decision, you should accept it.

I see, now it's about me. Well, i will reserve the right to express my opinion, on saying something is right or wrong.

And if you think OG have greater value than what Pog has been winning this year, then maybe you just don't understand cycling.

If you are interested in debating, or understanding, first read.

 

[CyclistAbi]

All time greats have ALWAYS elevated a sport.

Meh.

 

[bNator]

I see, now it's about me. Well, i will reserve the right to express my opinion, on saying something is right or wrong.

Pog decided he prefers some rest over the OG after winning a double and you are claiming it’s wrong decision. Can you really not see the irony here? You know better than him if he’s tired or not or if his reasons make sense to him or not?

I don’t think anyone can claim Pog is not ambitious enough. He’s the guy with greatest palmares in current generation of riders and if he feels OG are not that important to him, then that’s what it is…

 

[ppanther92]

What are the chances of getting a gold in women road race at the Olympics? LOL. Oh dear.

Not 0, she is a better cyclist than Anna Kiesenhofer for sure.

 

[Jack_89]

Honestly I don't give a ×××× of the triple. To seat among the greatest needs WC, P-R, MSR and Vuelta. Time is on his favour

 

[fbjim]

to be the greatest you need paris-tours. sorry eddy.

 

[carolina]

I was listening to G's podcast this morning and I was pretty surprised by what Pog said to him about the Vuelta. It makes absolutely 0 sense to not go to the race because Ayuso would not like that. What are UAE thinking. They should just gather everybody and remind them who Pog is and what he has done and allow any dissenting voices to quit the team before being fired.

He's not talking about Ayuso, it's about Yates and Almeida.

 

[CyclistAbi]

@bNator

Then at least be consistent in what Pogi said. He said more things, being tired, route not best suited for him ... AND Urška not getting selected playing a role in decision ...

Evaluating what was said, and if we acknowledge he is tired and the route isn't best suited for him and all that. With all that acknowledged a medal would still be a realistic outcome. And i don't see on how participating at Olympics RR could affect his WC RR prep. Anyway. Lets wait four years and see what future Pogi will do on when it comes to Olympics.

 

[scribers]

I see, now it's about me.

Yep. Started there too

 

[ppanther92]

Ayuso would not like that

He will not be nominated to the Vuelta based on his unwillingness to be a team player. Thats confirmed. So its not about Ayuso.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Yep. Started there too

Meh.

P.S. I would go.

 

[CyclistAbi]

He will not be nominated to the Vuelta based on his unwillingness to be a team player. Thats confirmed. So its not about Ayuso.

Hopefully for Bora to make an offer.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Honestly I don't give a ×××× of the triple. To seat among the greatest needs WC, P-R, MSR and Vuelta. Time is on his favour

Only that? Surely something must be missing. That looks rather weak.

 

[ppanther92]

Hopefully for Bora to make an offer.

I said this as well actually. Bora should go for Ayuso.

 

[scribers]

Ayuso on Movistar would be epic though. Plus better for him to market himself if he can display a modicum of competitiveness

 

[James M]

He will not be nominated to the Vuelta based on his unwillingness to be a team player. Thats confirmed. So its not about Ayuso.

Indeed its not about Ayuso.

But ive been curious about the final Vuelta roster duo to what they said about him like you say but got confused after the boss in Vuelta comfirmed his appearance. For that reason im curious whats the final outcome will be?