Why is that, exactly? There are many Olympic cycling events. Pogacar would have been a participant in only two of them, and a potential gold medal winner (but not favorite) in one.
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Agree I would say even higher if I'm frank but honestly idc that much at the end of the day when its all said and done its unquestionable anyway who knows. Factor in different era particular you can make even more conclusion depends on what you value I know what I do but its not very relevant.
Its like if you go by results alone and only that for me that's a flawed logic on seeing it that would applies Roglic is better than Vingegaard and Nibali better than Vingegaard, I just find that to be a flawed logic and way of seeing it its all for me.
Longevity he needs maybe do more to be the ''greatest'' though indeed but that's it for me. I acknowledge its not a scientific answer to this though.
Sure is cool to see so many personas in cycling already say he is above everyone though and not talking about nobody's but greats already.
I watched a bit of the video with auto translate on (not sure how accurate it is).
The parts I caught about Pogi: he quickly became friends with Remco because they are similar. He respects Vingegaard but doesn't really understand him. Pogi always observes Vinge and notices that he becomes nervous when he doesn't have teammates around him.
Nils scolded Pogi on radio in that stage where he tried to sprint with the actual sprinters. Pogi often asks on radio if they can go faster.
Apparently they have a "enemies list" on the fridge that became quite long.
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German is easy to learn...
Politt talked about a lot of different things:
- Pogacar is extremely relaxed, which he sees as one of his biggest strenghts
- hard to do tactics with Pogacar because often during races he feels good and decides to attack. So it's quite often he changes the tactics spontaneous
- Pogacar had a day where he saw that the last metres were a little but uphill and he really wanted to sprint with the top guns on this terrain. Politt had to hold him back before the race and also during the race
- he sometimes asked Pogacar why he attacked and the answer was something like "no idea, I just had good legs and wanted to try..."
- Pogacar and Evenepoel are close and really like each other. It's different with Vingegaard. They respect each other but nothing more. The day Vingegaard hoped to get the stage as present, Politt thinks he would have given Remco if they would have been together at the front
- Last two years wormed Pogacar and he was happy to bounce back this year
- Politt talked about the training camp and at one day Pogacar had a photo shoot and also on the next day, so Pogacar told Politt that he will take a day off... Politt joked around that they will do a 200km ride and that "only the good guys are able to"... Well, next day Pogacar decided to ride the 200km with them and it ended up as the hardest training day in Politts life because Pogacar played with them and sped up all day as response
- UAE jokes about Vingegaard that he gets very nervous and is looking around as soon as his team isnt around
- Politt also sees Visma as kind of bad losers during this Tour and also thought that the beer-dispute between FDJ and Visma from the Netflix-Doku of Tour 2023 was ridiculous
- Politt thinks that the discussions about carbon monoxide are also quite ridiculous and that he should be more in cologne city then because he is breathing in a lot more of it in this town than during testing of lung volume
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If Pogi chooses path #1, I have some doubts that he would be good enough to win LBL against peak shape Remco. I also don't expect him to ride Lombardia next year if he indeed does Tour-Vuelta-Worlds.
I would pick path #2 personally, however I acknowledge that there are good reasons for #1.
My train of thought is the following, Pogačar is on absolute terms already the best performer ever on a road bike however in relative terms and statistical he is still far from the palmares of Merckx or even Hinault. Obviously doing the GT treble in the same year would be unprecedented and would grant him the best season ever however in the long run that wouldn't still grant him a statistical GOAT status as Merckx palmares is still much further ahead.
So I believe that the priority for him should be to race and win the biggest amount of major races during the longest amount of time possible. And path #2 is in my opinion, the best to achieve that.
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The pink bike and Trofeo Senza Fine
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It is the depressing tit for tat fighting in this very forum that depresses me, I am of course going to watch the cycling because I love it! but the fighting here is very depressing
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5 Tours and 2 Giros. 2 Giro-Tour doubles. Big Mig was a hell of a rider
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German is easy to learn...
Politt talked about a lot of different things:
- Pogacar is extremely relaxed, which he sees as one of his biggest strenghts
- hard to do tactics with Pogacar because often during races he feels good and decides to attack. So it's quite often he changes the tactics spontaneous
- Pogacar had a day where he saw that the last metres were a little but uphill and he really wanted to sprint with the top guns on this terrain. Politt had to hold him back before the race and also during the race
- he sometimes asked Pogacar why he attacked and the answer was something like "no idea, I just had good legs and wanted to try..."
- Pogacar and Evenepoel are close and really like each other. It's different with Vingegaard. They respect each other but nothing more. The day Vingegaard hoped to get the stage as present, Politt thinks he would have given Remco if they would have been together at the front
- Last two years wormed Pogacar and he was happy to bounce back this year
- Politt talked about the training camp and at one day Pogacar had a photo shoot and also on the next day, so Pogacar told Politt that he will take a day off... Politt joked around that they will do a 200km ride and that "only the good guys are able to"... Well, next day Pogacar decided to ride the 200km with them and it ended up as the hardest training day in Politts life because Pogacar played with them and sped up all day as response
- UAE jokes about Vingegaard that he gets very nervous and is looking around as soon as his team isnt around
- Politt also sees Visma as kind of bad losers during this Tour and also thought that the beer-dispute between FDJ and Visma from the Netflix-Doku of Tour 2023 was ridiculous
- Politt thinks that the discussions about carbon monoxide are also quite ridiculous and that he should be more in cologne city then because he is breathing in a lot more of it in this town than during testing of lung volume
Thank you!!
If you would ask people inside cycling cummunity, they will all certaintly say Pogacar has surpassed everyone, if not on par with Merckx, everyone. However, if you mentioned Indurain, it would likely cause some good laughter. Not sure they understand much what they are watching. Im sure it was a forum joke, which I just dont get, so sorry in advance. Forum people just surprise me sometimes. Jokes are only fun if you get them and I didnt.
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German is easy to learn...
Politt talked about a lot of different things:
- Pogacar is extremely relaxed, which he sees as one of his biggest strenghts
- hard to do tactics with Pogacar because often during races he feels good and decides to attack. So it's quite often he changes the tactics spontaneous
- Pogacar had a day where he saw that the last metres were a little but uphill and he really wanted to sprint with the top guns on this terrain. Politt had to hold him back before the race and also during the race
- he sometimes asked Pogacar why he attacked and the answer was something like "no idea, I just had good legs and wanted to try..."
- Pogacar and Evenepoel are close and really like each other. It's different with Vingegaard. They respect each other but nothing more. The day Vingegaard hoped to get the stage as present, Politt thinks he would have given Remco if they would have been together at the front
- Last two years wormed Pogacar and he was happy to bounce back this year
- Politt talked about the training camp and at one day Pogacar had a photo shoot and also on the next day, so Pogacar told Politt that he will take a day off... Politt joked around that they will do a 200km ride and that "only the good guys are able to"... Well, next day Pogacar decided to ride the 200km with them and it ended up as the hardest training day in Politts life because Pogacar played with them and sped up all day as response
- UAE jokes about Vingegaard that he gets very nervous and is looking around as soon as his team isnt around
- Politt also sees Visma as kind of bad losers during this Tour and also thought that the beer-dispute between FDJ and Visma from the Netflix-Doku of Tour 2023 was ridiculous
- Politt thinks that the discussions about carbon monoxide are also quite ridiculous and that he should be more in cologne city then because he is breathing in a lot more of it in this town than during testing of lung volume
I agree with Politt, Visma is bad losers!
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Well that’s another way to look at it haha
Let me debunk the fatigue element that people here are talking about when mentioning Pog at the Vuelta.
If Pog decides to go to the Vuelta he would need to hit hard on 2-3 days and then control the race. His training efforts are harder than controlling a field with no Evenepoel, Vingegaard and an injured Roglic. The Vuelta ends on the 8th September and if he wins he won't need to do World's and Lombardia. He can go on a 3 month holiday. He will be completely fresh by Paris-Nice next year. He would have achieved the impossible and be the first in history. This would make him a legend.
Now the second choice: World's and Lombardia. He would probably start training gradually one or two weeks from now and in September he should be doing monster efforts to achieve a peak in form. He would need to keep that form until the 12th October - the date of Lombardia. So that gives him one month less of holiday compared to the Vuelta schedule. His season would be legendary but nothing compared to a Grand Tour Treble.
Sepp Kuss this year in the spring was performing on his usual level. I don't think it was Vuelta fatigue. You need to look at his previous seasons to see that. Him performing bad at the Dauphine was because he was sick.
The real reason they probably won't send Pog to the Vuelta is team politics. If Pog goes and doesn't give a chance to Almeida and Yates for their own glory there is a chance that next year they will soft pull for him and won't be as loyal. Mauro knows this, Pog knows this, Matxin knows this but they will play the Vuelta fatigue card to the viewers.
If Pog decides to go to the Vuelta he would need to hit hard on 2-3 days and then control the race. His training efforts are harder than controlling a field with no Evenepoel, Vingegaard and an injured Roglic. The Vuelta ends on the 8th September and if he wins he won't need to do World's and Lombardia. He can go on a 3 month holiday. He will be completely fresh by Paris-Nice next year. He would have achieved the impossible and be the first in history. This would make him a legend.
Now the second choice: World's and Lombardia. He would probably start training gradually one or two weeks from now and in September he should be doing monster efforts to achieve a peak in form. He would need to keep that form until the 12th October - the date of Lombardia. So that gives him one month less of holiday compared to the Vuelta schedule. His season would be legendary but nothing compared to a Grand Tour Treble.
Sepp Kuss this year in the spring was performing on his usual level. I don't think it was Vuelta fatigue. You need to look at his previous seasons to see that. Him performing bad at the Dauphine was because he was sick.
The real reason they probably won't send Pog to the Vuelta is team politics. If Pog goes and doesn't give a chance to Almeida and Yates for their own glory there is a chance that next year they will soft pull for him and won't be as loyal. Mauro knows this, Pog knows this, Matxin knows this but they will play the Vuelta fatigue card to the viewers.
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I actually think Pogacar don't even want to go to the Vuelta.
So that's for me really the end of the story.
If Politt says so, it must be true. He smiles 😁
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He is saying he would love to have Pog's legs for one day, just one day
He is also describing how unpredictable Pog is and also how demanding is to ride as his domestique as you often hear words like " Go harder" in your radion and you know you are riding as hard as you can.
He shared some funny training anecdotes and his opinion that Pog would never gift stage to Vingo. He might gift it to Remco according to Nils. He said that Pog and Remco are on very good terms but Pog and Vinge share only mutual respect but are not on friendly terms.
According to him Visma shown that they are petty losers and does not understand how they dare to make any comments regarding stage victories and sharing wealth after what they pulled in 2023 Vuelta.
Looks like a quite cool guy. Especially for German
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I have yet to see another person than you not call out Merijn Zeeman on his ridiculous hypocrisy when speaking about Pog's dominance this year.
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Visma guys came back to reality this year. A year to forget without winning an important race since 2023 Vuelta.
Honestly opening weekend, Paris-Nice and TA are all important races..
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