Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[fbjim]

to be the greatest you need paris-tours. sorry eddy.

 

[carolina]

I was listening to G's podcast this morning and I was pretty surprised by what Pog said to him about the Vuelta. It makes absolutely 0 sense to not go to the race because Ayuso would not like that. What are UAE thinking. They should just gather everybody and remind them who Pog is and what he has done and allow any dissenting voices to quit the team before being fired.

He's not talking about Ayuso, it's about Yates and Almeida.

 

[CyclistAbi]

@bNator

Then at least be consistent in what Pogi said. He said more things, being tired, route not best suited for him ... AND Urška not getting selected playing a role in decision ...

Evaluating what was said, and if we acknowledge he is tired and the route isn't best suited for him and all that. With all that acknowledged a medal would still be a realistic outcome. And i don't see on how participating at Olympics RR could affect his WC RR prep. Anyway. Lets wait four years and see what future Pogi will do on when it comes to Olympics.

 

[scribers]

I see, now it's about me.

Yep. Started there too

 

[ppanther92]

Ayuso would not like that

He will not be nominated to the Vuelta based on his unwillingness to be a team player. Thats confirmed. So its not about Ayuso.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Yep. Started there too

Meh.

P.S. I would go.

 

[CyclistAbi]

He will not be nominated to the Vuelta based on his unwillingness to be a team player. Thats confirmed. So its not about Ayuso.

Hopefully for Bora to make an offer.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Honestly I don't give a ×××× of the triple. To seat among the greatest needs WC, P-R, MSR and Vuelta. Time is on his favour

Only that? Surely something must be missing. That looks rather weak.

 

[ppanther92]

Hopefully for Bora to make an offer.

I said this as well actually. Bora should go for Ayuso.

 

[scribers]

Ayuso on Movistar would be epic though. Plus better for him to market himself if he can display a modicum of competitiveness

 

[James M]

He will not be nominated to the Vuelta based on his unwillingness to be a team player. Thats confirmed. So its not about Ayuso.

Indeed its not about Ayuso.

But ive been curious about the final Vuelta roster duo to what they said about him like you say but got confused after the boss in Vuelta comfirmed his appearance. For that reason im curious whats the final outcome will be?

 

[James M]

If no vuelta im guessing Moviestar is next for him but ive heard he is very close to Matxin and its hard to let go of a talent like that aswell maybe uae dont care?

 

[James M]

Hopefully for Bora to make an offer.

Would be good he dont have to become *** like he would if he went to Moviestar.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Would be good he dont have to become *** like he would if he went to Moviestar.

For Ayuso i guess it makes sense to look at a team that will potentially be one of the top teams in next 5 years. UAE already is one and that doesn't bode well with him. Switching to another top team would likely have a similar effect, switching to a team lacking ambitions makes no sense. So a team on the rise but not there yet, that could do it.

 

[snipeheem]

For Ayuso i guess it makes sense to look at a team that will potentially be one of the top teams in next 5 years. UAE already is one and that doesn't bode well with him. Switching to another top team would likely have a similar effect, switching to a team lacking ambitions makes no sense. So a team on the rise but not there yet, that could do it.

100 million dollars clause for Ayuso according to Mauro

 

[James M]

For Ayuso i guess it makes sense to look at a team that will potentially be one of the top teams in next 5 years. UAE already is one and that doesn't bode well with him. Switching to another top team would likely have a similar effect, switching to a team lacking ambitions makes no sense. So a team on the rise but not there yet, that could do it.

It does indeed make much more sense at least from a sporting perspective for sure.
Only part moviestar does is the spanish ties/connections. But who knows what Ayuso thinks and IF Evenpoel comes to Red bull I guess that would contradict that theory. But personally would much rather see him in Bora aswell.

 

[Divergence]

He's not talking about Ayuso, it's about Yates and Almeida.

Quite possibly. Also maybe Mcnulty. Either way I stand by my original post: "They should just gather everybody and remind them who Pog is and what he has done and allow any dissenting voices to quit the team before being fired."

 

[scribers]

100 million dollars clause for Ayuso according to Mauro

What is the clause? His buyout for UAE or for the team he’s switching to?

 

[James M]

But honestly have a hard time seeing UAE letting him go too but the question remains if he doesnt go to the Vuelta something will give!

 

[snipeheem]

What is the clause? His buyout for UAE or for the team he’s switching to?

To buy him out of the uae

 

[Krzysztof_O]

But honestly have a hard time seeing UAE letting him go too but the question remains if he doesnt go to the Vuelta something will give!

There could be a bombshell i.e.
With the team we decided that stretching my legs in the Vuelta will be a good preparation for the WC! I'll help Joao and Adam and I'm not planning to do the whole race but who knows what will happen on the road...

 

[CyclistAbi]

There could be a bombshell i.e.
With the team we decided that stretching my legs in the Vuelta will be a good preparation for the WC! I'll help Joao and Adam and I'm not planning to do the whole race but who knows what will happen on the road...

Forced into winning Vuelta. Yeah, that would fly.

 

[scribers]

To buy him out of the uae

So uae could waive that, right?

 

[snipeheem]

So uae could waive that, right?

I believe so

 

[CyclistAbi]

100 million dollars clause for Ayuso according to Mauro

Yeah, but then Mauro said Ayuso is not doing Vuelta, and it was realistically down to 50 already.