Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[James M]

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Its so crazy. And the 7w/kg ftp is bonkers. Pure animal.

 

[bNator]

Why in god's name is Abi making such a fuss about Pog not participating? To make Roglic look better or whats going on? One can hardly blame him after the Giro-Tour double, Urska's non-selection and a whatever route for him.

Yes. That and the fact once he expressed an opinion it seems he feels changing it is a sign of weakness…

 

[Gargamel35]

I don't care if he will burn out but I want to see him in the Vuelta. Zero competition there! This a life time opportunity. I don't want to wait 50 years to see another Pogacar. Just give Almeida the chance next year of riding and lead Giro-Vuelta.

Pogačar knows the value of a team. He has the best team in peloton, period. With them, he can win anything any year. By being greedy and racing everything and not letting good riders in his team going for their own results and glory would bring problems, bad mood and probably some leaving. He's won A LOT already and he can still win A LOT more. But not without a very good team. Besides, he wants WC win A LOT more, then Vuelta this year.

 

[Peter von]

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Javier Sola masterclass

Boy wonder grew Up!

Crazy stuff; wonder how it will look if someone gives him a proper fight next years Tour.

I don't care if he will burn out but I want to see him in the Vuelta. Zero competition there! This a life time opportunity. I don't want to wait 50 years to see another Pogacar. Just give Almeida the chance next year of riding and lead Giro-Vuelta.

Hehe yeah. But would UAE really let schedule get in the way?

I guess it’s team Pogi that thinks the risk of negatively impacting his long term performance are too big.
Or maybe they are just waiting for the August training numbers to tick in.

 

[Wyndbrook]

It does indeed make much more sense at least from a sporting perspective for sure.
Only part moviestar does is the spanish ties/connections. But who knows what Ayuso thinks and IF Evenpoel comes to Red bull I guess that would contradict that theory. But personally would much rather see him in Bora aswell.

Should go to EF, he has the perfect accent for those little tete a tetes with JV.

 

[Mina.S]

in a recent interview Pog said after last years world championships he was incredibly depressed and burnt out and it took him a long time to recover. There was also a lot of disappointment around him failing to gain Slovenia a second ITT spot at the Olympics. I think all this probably has to do with the Olympics exclusion although I imagine if Urska was picked he would have gone just so they could have some time together.

UAE are kind of getting a taste of their own medicine with the vuelta stuff if it’s true he can’t go purely because of team politics. You can’t sign every up and coming superstar and give them all the same leadership opportunities if you also have Pog in your team.

 

[Valv.Piti]

in a recent interview Pog said after last years world championships he was incredibly depressed and burnt out and it took him a long time to recover. There was also a lot of disappointment around him failing to gain Slovenia a second ITT spot at the Olympics. I think all this probably has to do with the Olympics exclusion although I imagine if Urska was picked he would have gone just so they could have some time together.

UAE are kind of getting a taste of their own medicine with the vuelta stuff if it’s true he can’t go purely because of team politics. You can’t sign every up and coming superstar and give them all the same leadership opportunities if you also have Pog in your team.

I wonder if he actually wanted to do the Vuelta, but I think you referring to the comment where he says the other guys also need their opportunities? It might be the smartest thing in the end, but on the other hand he can really achive something historic here...

 

[Mina.S]

I wonder if he actually wanted to do the Vuelta, but I think you referring to the comment where he says the other guys also need their opportunities? It might be the smartest thing in the end, but on the other hand he can really achive something historic here...

I think he probably would consider it if the team supported it. It’s going to be a pretty weak field where all of his big potential rivals aren’t going to are injured. I doubt he would have to put out huge numbers to win. From a doing the triple GT perspective this is probably the easiest it would be for him.

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if Urska pics up more races and all of a sudden he is interested in going because he’ll be bored after a week or 2 at home.

 

[James M]

I think he probably would consider it if the team supported it. It’s going to be a pretty weak field where all of his big potential rivals aren’t going to are injured. I doubt he would have to put out huge numbers to win. From a doing the triple GT perspective this is probably the easiest it would be for him.

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if Urska pics up more races and all of a sudden he is interested in going because he’ll be bored after a week or 2 at home.

Also, the WC, which is a huge goal for him, plays a part, I think. If not for that route this year, maybe there’s a higher chance. He wants it, and I just think that also plays a role.

It would be interesting to see how much they’re afraid of the triple actually hurting him because that’s the biggest and only reason not to consider it—at least from our perspective it doesnt look likely agree but its hard to know also from a outsider perspective, first time he did two GT lets not forget.

It might be genuine concern from the data all im saying, not saying I think that, who knows. At the end of the day its some sort of unkown territorium for them aswell and if it is a legitimate concern, it doesn’t make sense.

 

[James M]

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if Urska pics up more races and all of a sudden he is interested in going because he’ll be bored after a week or 2 at home.

Wait for it -- like Krzysztof_O said

''There could be a bombshell i.e.
With the team we decided that stretching my legs in the Vuelta will be a good preparation for the WC! I'll help Joao and Adam and I'm not planning to do the whole race but who knows what will happen on the road...''

 

[hayneplane]

Gutted he has sidestepped the Olympics. Giro/Tour/Olympics would be far more epic than Giro/Tour/Worlds and cycling as a sport is diminished by the absence of its biggest superstar on the global stage.

If it’s because they are secretly trying to plan a form peak to take in a tilt at the Vuelta to do the triple then all would be forgiven.

 

[velaso montador]

Pogačar knows the value of a team. He has the best team in peloton, period. With them, he can win anything any year. By being greedy and racing everything and not letting good riders in his team going for their own results and glory would bring problems, bad mood and probably some leaving. He's won A LOT already and he can still win A LOT more. But not without a very good team. Besides, he wants WC win A LOT more, then Vuelta this year.

The way he won the Giro-Tour double. Giro by 10 min then crushing the Tour in a fashion like that which we havent seen in ages and Eurosport commentator said forever. 6 stage wins, total domination on every mountain, best numbers ever seen in history.

Saw people already proclaiming its in the top 5 best season off all times already as it is.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Why in god's name is Abi making such a fuss about Pog not participating? To make Roglic look better or whats going on? One can hardly blame him after the Giro-Tour double, Urska's non-selection and a whatever route for him.

You see Rogla in everything.

 

[sam6]

Ofcourse.

Only 2 memes ever apply. I speak and get big trouble. And they hate Jesus Red Rick for speaking the truth

Which would you prefer, to watch Pogi bear Vingegaard in a stage by 1 minute or to watch Davide Bais beat Karel Vacek and Simone Pettilli when the peloton finish 3 minutes behind with 0 attacks, like what happened in the 2023 Giro?

 

[Red Rick]

Which would you prefer, to watch Pogi bear Vingegaard in a stage by 1 minute or to watch Davide Bais beat Karel Vacek and Simone Pettilli when the peloton finish 3 minutes behind with 0 attacks, like what happened in the 2023 Giro?

Says a lot we need these kinds of misrepresentations to have an argument innit.

And yes, I definitely prefer to watch the latter once compared to watch the former happen 5 times.

 

[Oldermanish]

A similar scenario to Glasgow would be possible. Fighting for medals but missing something at the end (MVP peaking on this route would be hard to beat). He was absolutely gassed after the WC last year so they probably don't want him to overexert again after the double.

He was gassed at the previous WC in Australia from what little I could see. No rebound and alot of travel to get to that race.

 

[velaso montador]

Almeida '' Imagine if you did go fast when you go easy and its like this''

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[scribers]

if you had to pick one thing to be true:

Door #1 - pogi says *** it and races the vuelta comprising his recovery until later next spring. So he gets the treble, wins one of either worlds or Lombardia (or neither); yet doesn’t do a bonkers spring campaign. Needs the recovery time into next years schedule. does LBL (good enough to win), Dauphine, and is strong again for tour/vuelta combo plus worlds/Lombardia.

Door #2 pogi stays the course. Wins worlds, Lombardia, and has a lights out spring classics campaign (no giro), tour/Vuelta, worlds, Lombardia

 

[AmRacer]

if you had to pick one thing to be true:

Door #1 - pogi says *** it and races the vuelta comprising his recovery until later next spring. So he gets the treble, wins one of either worlds or Lombardia (or neither); yet doesn’t do a bonkers spring campaign. Needs the recovery time into next years schedule. does LBL (good enough to win), Dauphine, and is strong again for tour/vuelta combo plus worlds/Lombardia.

Door #2 pogi stays the course. Wins worlds, Lombardia, and has a lights out spring classics campaign (no giro), tour/Vuelta, worlds, Lombardia

#2

 

[Miha81]

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[BigCoward]

Guys you are just repeating some passe nonsense. Cycling, and some other pro sports, just don't have much initiative to put Olympics on the pedestal.

Road cycling. For track cyclists it's absolutely the pinnacle.

 

[velaso montador]

if you had to pick one thing to be true:

Door #1 - pogi says *** it and races the vuelta comprising his recovery until later next spring. So he gets the treble, wins one of either worlds or Lombardia (or neither); yet doesn’t do a bonkers spring campaign. Needs the recovery time into next years schedule. does LBL (good enough to win), Dauphine, and is strong again for tour/vuelta combo plus worlds/Lombardia.

Door #2 pogi stays the course. Wins worlds, Lombardia, and has a lights out spring classics campaign (no giro), tour/Vuelta, worlds, Lombardia

#2

 

[velaso montador]

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[Peyroteo94]

if you had to pick one thing to be true:

Door #1 - pogi says *** it and races the vuelta comprising his recovery until later next spring. So he gets the treble, wins one of either worlds or Lombardia (or neither); yet doesn’t do a bonkers spring campaign. Needs the recovery time into next years schedule. does LBL (good enough to win), Dauphine, and is strong again for tour/vuelta combo plus worlds/Lombardia.

Door #2 pogi stays the course. Wins worlds, Lombardia, and has a lights out spring classics campaign (no giro), tour/Vuelta, worlds, Lombardia

Door 1. We can witness history. I would choose this door even if he wasn't able to be at his best next year. He is wasting a big opportunity to be the GOAT. No one has ever done this feat.

 

[mrgmyers]

Well, I am sure I am alone but I am no longer looking forward to the Olympic cycling events! Thanks so much.