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Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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hfgon1 said:
German is easy to learn...:D:p

Politt talked about a lot of different things:

- Pogacar is extremely relaxed, which he sees as one of his biggest strenghts
- hard to do tactics with Pogacar because often during races he feels good and decides to attack. So it's quite often he changes the tactics spontaneous
- Pogacar had a day where he saw that the last metres were a little but uphill and he really wanted to sprint with the top guns on this terrain. Politt had to hold him back before the race and also during the race
- he sometimes asked Pogacar why he attacked and the answer was something like "no idea, I just had good legs and wanted to try..."
- Pogacar and Evenepoel are close and really like each other. It's different with Vingegaard. They respect each other but nothing more. The day Vingegaard hoped to get the stage as present, Politt thinks he would have given Remco if they would have been together at the front
- Last two years wormed Pogacar and he was happy to bounce back this year
- Politt talked about the training camp and at one day Pogacar had a photo shoot and also on the next day, so Pogacar told Politt that he will take a day off... Politt joked around that they will do a 200km ride and that "only the good guys are able to"... Well, next day Pogacar decided to ride the 200km with them and it ended up as the hardest training day in Politts life because Pogacar played with them and sped up all day as response
- UAE jokes about Vingegaard that he gets very nervous and is looking around as soon as his team isnt around
- Politt also sees Visma as kind of bad losers during this Tour and also thought that the beer-dispute between FDJ and Visma from the Netflix-Doku of Tour 2023 was ridiculous
- Politt thinks that the discussions about carbon monoxide are also quite ridiculous and that he should be more in cologne city then because he is breathing in a lot more of it in this town than during testing of lung volume
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Thank you!!
 
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You have him below Induráin? Come on...
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If you would ask people inside cycling cummunity, they will all certaintly say Pogacar has surpassed everyone, if not on par with Merckx, everyone. However, if you mentioned Indurain, it would likely cause some good laughter. Not sure they understand much what they are watching. Im sure it was a forum joke, which I just dont get, so sorry in advance. Forum people just surprise me sometimes. Jokes are only fun if you get them and I didnt.
 
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hfgon1 said:
German is easy to learn...:D:p

Politt talked about a lot of different things:

- Pogacar is extremely relaxed, which he sees as one of his biggest strenghts
- hard to do tactics with Pogacar because often during races he feels good and decides to attack. So it's quite often he changes the tactics spontaneous
- Pogacar had a day where he saw that the last metres were a little but uphill and he really wanted to sprint with the top guns on this terrain. Politt had to hold him back before the race and also during the race
- he sometimes asked Pogacar why he attacked and the answer was something like "no idea, I just had good legs and wanted to try..."
- Pogacar and Evenepoel are close and really like each other. It's different with Vingegaard. They respect each other but nothing more. The day Vingegaard hoped to get the stage as present, Politt thinks he would have given Remco if they would have been together at the front
- Last two years wormed Pogacar and he was happy to bounce back this year
- Politt talked about the training camp and at one day Pogacar had a photo shoot and also on the next day, so Pogacar told Politt that he will take a day off... Politt joked around that they will do a 200km ride and that "only the good guys are able to"... Well, next day Pogacar decided to ride the 200km with them and it ended up as the hardest training day in Politts life because Pogacar played with them and sped up all day as response
- UAE jokes about Vingegaard that he gets very nervous and is looking around as soon as his team isnt around
- Politt also sees Visma as kind of bad losers during this Tour and also thought that the beer-dispute between FDJ and Visma from the Netflix-Doku of Tour 2023 was ridiculous
- Politt thinks that the discussions about carbon monoxide are also quite ridiculous and that he should be more in cologne city then because he is breathing in a lot more of it in this town than during testing of lung volume
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I agree with Politt, Visma is bad losers!
 
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Let me debunk the fatigue element that people here are talking about when mentioning Pog at the Vuelta.
If Pog decides to go to the Vuelta he would need to hit hard on 2-3 days and then control the race. His training efforts are harder than controlling a field with no Evenepoel, Vingegaard and an injured Roglic. The Vuelta ends on the 8th September and if he wins he won't need to do World's and Lombardia. He can go on a 3 month holiday. He will be completely fresh by Paris-Nice next year. He would have achieved the impossible and be the first in history. This would make him a legend.
Now the second choice: World's and Lombardia. He would probably start training gradually one or two weeks from now and in September he should be doing monster efforts to achieve a peak in form. He would need to keep that form until the 12th October - the date of Lombardia. So that gives him one month less of holiday compared to the Vuelta schedule. His season would be legendary but nothing compared to a Grand Tour Treble.
Sepp Kuss this year in the spring was performing on his usual level. I don't think it was Vuelta fatigue. You need to look at his previous seasons to see that. Him performing bad at the Dauphine was because he was sick.
The real reason they probably won't send Pog to the Vuelta is team politics. If Pog goes and doesn't give a chance to Almeida and Yates for their own glory there is a chance that next year they will soft pull for him and won't be as loyal. Mauro knows this, Pog knows this, Matxin knows this but they will play the Vuelta fatigue card to the viewers.
 
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Let me debunk the fatigue element that people here are talking about when mentioning Pog at the Vuelta.
If Pog decides to go to the Vuelta he would need to hit hard on 2-3 days and then control the race. His training efforts are harder than controlling a field with no Evenepoel, Vingegaard and an injured Roglic. The Vuelta ends on the 8th September and if he wins he won't need to do World's and Lombardia. He can go on a 3 month holiday. He will be completely fresh by Paris-Nice next year. He would have achieved the impossible and be the first in history. This would make him a legend.
Now the second choice: World's and Lombardia. He would probably start training gradually one or two weeks from now and in September he should be doing monster efforts to achieve a peak in form. He would need to keep that form until the 12th October - the date of Lombardia. So that gives him one month less of holiday compared to the Vuelta schedule. His season would be legendary but nothing compared to a Grand Tour Treble.
Sepp Kuss this year in the spring was performing on his usual level. I don't think it was Vuelta fatigue. You need to look at his previous seasons to see that. Him performing bad at the Dauphine was because he was sick.
The real reason they probably won't send Pog to the Vuelta is team politics. If Pog goes and doesn't give a chance to Almeida and Yates for their own glory there is a chance that next year they will soft pull for him and won't be as loyal. Mauro knows this, Pog knows this, Matxin knows this but they will play the Vuelta fatigue card to the viewers.
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I actually think Pogacar don't even want to go to the Vuelta.
So that's for me really the end of the story.
 
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I don't understand a word in German. What does he say?
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He is saying he would love to have Pog's legs for one day, just one day ;)

He is also describing how unpredictable Pog is and also how demanding is to ride as his domestique as you often hear words like " Go harder" in your radion and you know you are riding as hard as you can.

He shared some funny training anecdotes and his opinion that Pog would never gift stage to Vingo. He might gift it to Remco according to Nils. He said that Pog and Remco are on very good terms but Pog and Vinge share only mutual respect but are not on friendly terms.

According to him Visma shown that they are petty losers and does not understand how they dare to make any comments regarding stage victories and sharing wealth after what they pulled in 2023 Vuelta.

Looks like a quite cool guy. Especially for German ;)
 
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Rou said:
Let me debunk the fatigue element that people here are talking about when mentioning Pog at the Vuelta.
If Pog decides to go to the Vuelta he would need to hit hard on 2-3 days and then control the race. His training efforts are harder than controlling a field with no Evenepoel, Vingegaard and an injured Roglic. The Vuelta ends on the 8th September and if he wins he won't need to do World's and Lombardia. He can go on a 3 month holiday. He will be completely fresh by Paris-Nice next year. He would have achieved the impossible and be the first in history. This would make him a legend.
Now the second choice: World's and Lombardia. He would probably start training gradually one or two weeks from now and in September he should be doing monster efforts to achieve a peak in form. He would need to keep that form until the 12th October - the date of Lombardia. So that gives him one month less of holiday compared to the Vuelta schedule. His season would be legendary but nothing compared to a Grand Tour Treble.
Sepp Kuss this year in the spring was performing on his usual level. I don't think it was Vuelta fatigue. You need to look at his previous seasons to see that. Him performing bad at the Dauphine was because he was sick.
The real reason they probably won't send Pog to the Vuelta is team politics. If Pog goes and doesn't give a chance to Almeida and Yates for their own glory there is a chance that next year they will soft pull for him and won't be as loyal. Mauro knows this, Pog knows this, Matxin knows this but they will play the Vuelta fatigue card to the viewers.
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OTOH. If they set aside their personal ambitions, they can have opportunities next year. Pog rides the Tour and focuses on classics and one week stage races for just that calendar year. Honestly, they seem to be leaning that 2025 schedule from bits and pieces that I can find and glean, TBD.

Also, money talks. I don't think ASO gives out participation fees for the Tour, but maybe the Vuelta? Spread that around to the top lieutenants. UAE can do contract extensions and performance bonuses for cooperating. There are always work around for the team dynamics when legendary achievement opportunity presents itself.
 
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2 Tours is a lot in my opinion.
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It is a lot, but so is the 6 monuments and everything else Pog won and Mig didn't in one-day racing. I think Pog's one-day race palmares make up for his deficit in GT as of this moment. This Tour has in my opinion tipped the balance in Pog's favour. But I'll admit objectively, it may not be that clear to everyone at the moment and I see we can agree if not this year, then in a very short while, we'll be able to claim unanimously Pog has surpassed Indurain on paper.
 
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