Normally not no.
Problem is if Pogacar goes to the Giro again. But I'm not that sure Evenepoel in Tour form loses to Pogacar in Giro form.
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Problem is if Pogacar goes to the Giro again. But I'm not that sure Evenepoel in Tour form loses to Pogacar in Giro form.
Your predictions have been spot on since the Giro but I can't agree with you, Pogacar wasn't even racing full gas in the Giro, Remco would never compete against Pogacar even if he showed with Giro legs.
He wasn't going full gas most of the time, but he did a few times I think. To me it makes no sense to assume he was half assing on Foscagno.
If Evenepoel had been there, Pogacar would have had to push a lot harder to win that Giro
You are overestimating Remco's ability. He was losing more than a minute and half (mean) consistently to Pogacar in the high mountains (I counted stages 14, 15, 19, 20). If Pogacar was going hard, probably the mean would be like 2 minutes. Remco was very good to his own standards but he is too far from Pogacar and I don't believe Giro's Pogacar is way worse than Tour's Pogacar. Of course Pogacar would need to go deeper but he would win easily, maybe not by 10 minutes but a 3/4 minutes gap is a sure thing to me.
Evenepoel finished ~10 minutes ahead of Almeida. Pogacar 10 minutes ahead of Dani Martinez. Your pick really.
I'm not generally one for losing my *** at W/kg estimates, but the Tour was like a completely different timeline compared to the Giro
If he is way too good to just have a chance of getting a podium at the Tour, then he has a chance, albeit slim, of winning.
And then what if Pogi does Giro again after all?
Remco just going to drop out and focus on Cro Race?
You can't compare those 10 minutes for 2 reasons and I think you will agree with me.
1: Giro was a lot easier compared to the Tour (route and how was raced)
2: Pogacar gained 10 minutes on Martinez but he could gain 15 if he wanted. We can't say the same about Remco.
Everyone has a slim chance of winning the Tour. Remco would need a scenario like 2014 Nibali to win the Tour. I don't think it will happen because Vingo and Pogacar are better bike handlers than Remco.
Doing the peak of his life and then making his competitors so dizzy in week 1 that they crash out before the proper GC days even start?
Yes please!
well actually no please to crashes!
Remco IMO is too young and too good to stop believing he can improve and catch up. Elite athletes as good as Remco can't go around accepting there is no hope, imagine if Italy didn't bother go to Euro 2020 just because Spain and Germany were probably better on paper!
Remco is quite strong mentally coming back the way he did after exiting the giro ‘23, cracking at the vuelta, and that nasty crash at basque.
Every champion is strong mentally, Remco, Pogacar, Vingegaard, etc. They are so successful because they are tough as nails. However despite being young and having room to improve, he won't close the gap to Pogacar or Vingegaard. The gap is too big and he is not a natural climber when we compare with those 2 mutants
He can hope and dream but I think he will not have a chance. I just wanted to see him winning the Giro but next year will be Almeida's golden opportunity. As a portuguese fan, I am delighted about that.Doing the peak of his life and then making his competitors so dizzy in week 1 that they crash out before the proper GC days even start?
Yes please!
well actually no please to crashes!
Remco IMO is too young and too good to stop believing he can improve and catch up. Elite athletes as good as Remco can't go around accepting there is no hope, imagine if Italy didn't bother go to Euro 2020 just because Spain and Germany were probably better on paper!
He closed what? He didn't even prepare Vuelta last year (He DNF the Giro). Of course he would do better this year.
The gap to Vingegaard 2023. Which everyone deemed impossible after his previous GT performances
"Nobody's speaking any more about my third place in the Tour de France," he says. "So you can really see that the Olympics, and especially a double gold medal is just above everything. I was speaking about this with my wife as well. I think the last week that I had at the Olympics, the Saturday-to-Saturday week with the two gold medals, what I achieved in Paris will be the highest moment of my sporting life."
if he accepts he has no chance, then he has a mentality problem. Remco has too keep pushing himself and he does that by throwing down with the best at the TdF.
I get that a Giro win is (at least to a lot of people) a better improvement on Remco's palmares at this point compared to another TdF 3rd. But to me he is too close to the mutants to just fold.
Or he did something extremely unique, in an amazing fashion against the best in the field, so he’s proud of it
It is a third place... let him win a Tour and then wait to see the apocalypse he will cause in Belgium. 50 years since Merckx.
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I love Evenepoel but Tour is the best in cycling theres many things in cycling above OL even WC, monuments, Giro. Flandern would be greater even I love Evenepoel but its not hard to keep it real - from a general term different country value OL different but from a general view in cycling its several monuments even who holds a higher pedigree, just like fotball. Winning OL in fotball im sure is the best for some selected few but in general terms its not very highly rated at all just like cycling where its second tier still nice but second tier.
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Yes in a age where cycling is blossoming.
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