Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[stekelegel]

....and he would say Julius Erving was Merckx and PT Barnum. Dr J made the NBA what it is today.

Russel would be Armstrong, as in winning the most championships. And Erving Hinault. Great players but not goats.

 

[Salvarani]

Only one GOAT and his name is Tadej Pogacar

 

[stekelegel]

How do you know that?

You can't all rewrite history, it's almost like some "woke" thing here.

He is the GOAT of this sport like Michael jordan is the GOAT of basketball, this is nothing about being the best of each generation.

A bit early for that. Let's say GOAT potential.

 

[Berniece]

He wasn't sleeping at altitude, just training

A lot of riders don't sleep at altitude, but they do sleep in a special chamber

 

[Savant12]

Most complete rider of recent years.

 

[Peyroteo94]

A lot of riders don't sleep at altitude, but they do sleep in a special chamber

But I think he wasn't. If I rememeber corretly he was doing an altitude training (and don't even know if he was really climbing high climbs) just to be with his girlfriend.

 

[Berniece]

But I think he wasn't. If I rememeber corretly he was doing an altitude training (and don't even know if he was really climbing high climbs) just to be with his girlfriend.

Sure but you are just guessing to try and create a possible false narrative about how good Pogacar is. Not saying he isn't good, he's the best this year.

 

[Mina.S]

Sure but you are just guessing to try and create a possible false narrative about how good Pogacar is. Not saying he isn't good, he's the best this year.

He goes with Urska to altitude a few times a year so he was probably always thinking about going, it's not like she just randomly decided to go to altitude it was before her two biggest races. He also stayed there much longer than she did because she was already racing.

 

[Offline]

He goes with Urska to altitude a few times a year so he was probably always thinking about going, it's not like she just randomly decided to go to altitude it was before her two biggest races. He also stayed there much longer than she did because she was already racing.

Is he doing altitude training this week?

I read somewhere that you need as least 3 weeks of altitude tranning for it to make sense.

 

[James M]

Finally were able to watch the best cyclist of all time again what a breath of frseh air it was, once your used to watching him watching anyone else race just doesnt feel the same at all. Cant wait to WC

 

[Mina.S]

Is he doing altitude training this week?

I read somewhere that you need as least 3 weeks of altitude tranning for it to make sense.

I doubt it. He has already reconned the circuit and Urska posted she is at home training in Monaco so he will probably just stay at home. Most of the Slovenians live in Monaco and he has been training for worlds with Matej/ Wellens and Bling if you check his strava.

 

[yaco]

He goes with Urska to altitude a few times a year so he was probably always thinking about going, it's not like she just randomly decided to go to altitude it was before her two biggest races. He also stayed there much longer than she did because she was already racing.

You are 100% correct with this post.

 

[Berniece]

He goes with Urska to altitude a few times a year so he was probably always thinking about going, it's not like she just randomly decided to go to altitude it was before her two biggest races. He also stayed there much longer than she did because she was already racing.

I don’t know why you reply this to my post.

 

[Salvarani]

Finally were able to watch the best cyclist of all time again what a breath of frseh air it was, once your used to watching him watching anyone else race just doesnt feel the same at all. Cant wait to WC

Easy does it!

GOAT

 

[Peyroteo94]

Witikon has a full km at 9%, he is gonna murder his rivals. Roglic should work just like Yates before Pogacar's attack

 

[Berniece]

Witikon has a full km at 9%, he is gonna murder his rivals. Roglic should work just like Yates before Pogacar's attack

He won't, he just won the Vuelta has won Liege and is known to be also good at 1-day races in general. Roglic get's a free role and maybe even co-leadership.

 

[Mina.S]

You are 100% correct with this post.

She was also staying in the most expensive ski chalet in Isola 2000, paid for by UAE, but everyone is still pretending he just went to altitude as a snap decision 🤷🏻‍♀️

 

[2WpK]

WC countdown, let's go.

 

[Jan the Man]

He won't, he just won the Vuelta has won Liege and is known to be also good at 1-day races in general. Roglic get's a free role and maybe even co-leadership.

He should definitely have a free role to a point but Roglic’s results in one day races does not justify ‘co-leadership’. Of course the race could play into his hands and he would be a useful foil. Albeit if I were Slovenia and wanted best chance of winning you go all in on Pog.

 

[Red Rick]

He should definitely have a free role to a point but Roglic’s results in one day races does not justify ‘co-leadership’. Of course the race could play into his hands and he would be a useful foil. Albeit if I were Slovenia and wanted best chance of winning you go all in on Pog.

That's pretty obvious to everyone. Still I'm curious how you'd even use Roglic specifically as a domestique.

Roglic' main use to Pogacar I think is if Pogacar is out of positino when Evenepoel attacks, or when Pogacar and Evenepoel get away and simply get caught because Evenepoel refuses to pull with Pogacar. Both are unlikely scenarios.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

That's pretty obvious to everyone. Still I'm curious how you'd even use Roglic specifically as a domestique.

Roglic' main use to Pogacar I think is if Pogacar is out of positino when Evenepoel attacks, or when Pogacar and Evenepoel get away and simply get caught because Evenepoel refuses to pull with Pogacar. Both are unlikely scenarios.

Pogacar may need horse power to chase a strong breakaway and control the race. This is where Rogla could be helpful as well but I don't think he will do it because of his (probable) free role. This is a situation when bringing two leaders can backfire for Slovenia.

 

[Sciatic]

Is he doing altitude training this week?

I read somewhere that you need as least 3 weeks of altitude tranning for it to make sense.

I’ve seen 2 weeks to get the full benefit. But I doubt the increase in HCT from hypoxia effect is zero percent after 13 days and then suddenly 5% the next day because it’s been 14 days.

 

[Fos]

Witikon has a full km at 9%, he is gonna murder his rivals. Roglic should work just like Yates before Pogacar's attack

Preceded by another Km at 8% with almost no descent...

 

[Berniece]

Pogacar may need horse power to chase a strong breakaway and control the race. This is where Rogla could be helpful as well but I don't think he will do it because of his (probable) free role. This is a situation when bringing two leaders can backfire for Slovenia.

And what about Mohoric? Will he just work for Pogi? He has won MSR, also shown he could win bigger 1-day races. Not sure he’s willing to sacrifice his own chances.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

And what about Mohoric? Will he just work for Pogi? He has won MSR, also shown he could win bigger 1-day races. Not sure he’s willing to sacrifice his own chances.

Generally depends on race situation, if possible they can save all strong matches for the finale. If it's necessarily to chase down a strong breakaway then they will have to tell some strong guys to chase. If 3 guys are protected they can lose big time due to lack of chasing horse power. It's not that those 3 guys are equally good, there's no doubt who's the strongest rider in the team.