Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Peyroteo94]

Pure dominance, let's refresh his season:
SB: 81 km solo (almost 3 minutes gap).
MSR: 3rd, he could have won if MVP doesn't bridge to him after his second attack.
Volta a Catalunya: No words needed, biggest time gap for 2nd place in 40 years (one week stage races). 4 wins out of 7.
LBL: Pure dominance, just killed the field in La Redoute and another 35 km solo
Giro: 6 stages, pure carnage when he wanted. 3 minutes in Livigno, 2 minutes in Grappa.
Tour: 6 stages, best climbing performance ever (not once but in all 3 high mountain stages).
Quebec: De Lie killed himself to not let Pogi go away but his attack was so impressive. Hats off for De Lie
Montreal: Another 25 km solo after a stunning attack.
WC: Attacks when there id still more than 100 km to race. Bridge to Tratnik and then 23 km with Sivakov. After that a huge solo of 52 km.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I still would consider Van der Poel to be the best classics rider. But Pogacar is definitely the best one day racer.

What's the difference?

 

[James M]

This race will go down with the rest this season will go down in the history not only for the result but also the fashion of it and in 50-100 years people will talk about Pogacar in ways which are hard to imagine.

Thats just it and what will happen no matter if your fav rider lost or not. He is in a league of his own by anyone in the history of this sport.

word.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Again, so many banned people. Forum is going wild with Tadej's win!
Let's just appreciate this dude, he will not last forever.

 

[James M]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1840468770395242884

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Sounds/seems like somone gonne have a blast tonight.

 

[2WpK]

He thought he made a big mistake, as did everyone else. It was very tense for a while. Definitely historic.

Anyone win WC x 3 consecutive years?

 

[Peyroteo94]

He thought he made a big mistake, as did everyone else. It was very tense for a while. Definitely historic.

Anyone win WC x 3 consecutive years?

Sagan. Pogacar can win 4 in a row if he really wants!

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

I assume WC will return to August after le tour, which will be Pogi's main problem. If so, running the giro again will extract the necessary energy. Pogi will want to collect as many WCRR as he possibly can. One is great, but 3 is even better.

I believe the August Worlds will be every 4 years, when it is in conjunction with most of the other cycling world championships, so next in 20127. Otherwise late September.

Edit: inaccurate fingers rather than reversing timeline.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I believe the August Worlds will be every 4 years, when it is in conjunction with most of the other cycling world championships, so next in 2017. Otherwise late September.

2027. I think WC shoud be raced in early October to bring Vuelta back to September.

 

[ArnaudVDL]

What's the difference?

I always think of the classics as the races between the season opener and LBL. So I give mvdp the edge there, based on his results. But I consider Pogacar to be the best one day racer because he can win almost any one day race, with Mathieu that is not the case. But maybe that is just my definition.

 

[pihi42]

Pog's 2024 season can be looked at (among many) from this angle:
He competed in 9 separate races (if we count stage races as a single race) and he won 7 of them.
Not even the currently reigning GOAT approached this stat.
Now you might say "he only competes when he's sure he'll win" but Tour/Giro/WC/Liege/Strade don't look exactly as races one would pick for being easy to win.
He only failed at MSR (3rd) and Quebec(admitted a tactical mistake).

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

pretty much in style to round of the season
I really thought 100km was too far, but when the Belgium team was blown within a lap, I knew it wasn't too far.

It's crazy. People do not understand how much stronger than everyone else you have to be to be able to pull this off. And I don't even think this was top form pogi. TDF Pogi was better..
Isanity. Noboby can stop this man but himself.

 

[James M]

Pogacar is of a surreal realm. He can kick the strongest version of VDP in Flanders.. I have no words of the insane level of that man

While having a FTP of 7w/kg in the mountains and a able to sustain over 7.3w/kg end of stages for almost 40min while closest rivals go into red and blow up by sniffing 7.

 

[Savant12]

Yes, @Logic-is-your-friend can tell you all about it. You simply asses who is more aerodynamic on TT bike et voila, he’s a better rouleur😁

Take away Remco's aerodynamic package and he is a lesser rider.

 

[Lequack]

Pogacar got a bit emotional talking about Urska

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrZaWPnD0Zc

 

[hayneplane]

I still would consider Van der Poel to be the best classics rider. But Pogacar is definitely the best one day racer.

How does that even work? Sounds like pure copium.

Maybe you could say MVDP is the best cobbled classics rider but if Tadej rode more of them it would severely cut into MVDPs record of dominance.

The Ronde Van Vlaanderen is the closest to 50/50 parity in parcours suitability for both riders and in two editions MVDP has never dropped Pogacar.

 

[mlescanojr]

Take away Remco's aerodynamic package and he is a lesser rider.

He is a lesser rider even with all the package he wants.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Pogacar's engine is way superior to anyone in the peloton. Only Wout comes close. Aerodymanic is another thing and that's why Remco is such a phenomenon in flat TTs (he also has a great engine).

 

[Peyroteo94]

I always think of the classics as the races between the season opener and LBL. So I give mvdp the edge there, based on his results. But I consider Pogacar to be the best one day racer because he can win almost any one day race, with Mathieu that is not the case. But maybe that is just my definition.

I respect your opinion but that doesn't make sense

 

[Pippo_San]

GOAT

 

[Miha81]

I guess the GOAT was really impressed by best cyclist of current generation

“What he did is unbelievable. I have no words for it,” Merckx told Le Parisien. He could not believe his eyes when Pogacar attacked a hundred kilometers from the finish. “You have to be crazy for that,” he sounded laughing. “When he attacked, I started to fear him. I was sure that Tadej had left way too early. Normally it is impossible to win after such a long attack, but Tadej did it.”

“He’s the strongest rider of his generation. There is no doubt about that,” said the 79-year-old Merckx. “You know, it takes a lot to blow my socks off at my age. Well, Tadej has succeeded. I suspected he could be world champion, but never like this. He’s really the best – congratulations.”

« Attaquer à 100 km, il faut être fou » : Eddy Merckx bluffé par le triomphe de Tadej Pogacar aux Mondiaux

Le Slovène, qui a étrillé ses adversaires lors des Mondiaux de Zurich, marche sur les pas du « Cannibale ». Même si, de son propre aveu, le

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[snipeheem]

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[Peyroteo94]

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Ouch, haters will have a hard night of sleep eheheh. Just joking, I still think Pogi needs a little bit of palmares to overcome Merckx

 

[Berniece]

I wasn't able to watch the race, but what a feat. I followed a ticker, and when he went at 100km's I thought nice, he's going to blow himself up. But he didn't. Tactically an amazing move, he was also clearly the strongest. Well deserved World Champion.

 

[snipeheem]

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