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One more race to make it the best season in the history of the sport. Nvm just the results its the way he did em which makes it even more otherwordly.
They should just make a jersey of Giro, Tour, WC in same season tribute to him. It wont happen again in our lifetime unless he does it..
people on this forum spent the first quarter of this year complaining that cycling was ruined because Jumbo was winning all the time.
That seems a rash claim. It has happened three times in my lifetime: are you expecting to die young? Do you claim some insight into what riders might, or won't, emerge in 30 or 40 years time?
Can you cite that (assuming you mean Visma, as there has been no Jumbo this year)? Because pre-Giro, Visma had 18 wins, UAE had 30 (even Decathlon has 14).
You cant compare cycling from then its not the same at all and I dont expect cycling to become less competetive like those days. Usually thats not how evolution work at least, cycling is growing while were also in a golden era, more money, more desirable to become a cyclist, more talents etcetc.. But maybe a rash claim sure its a long time lets go with in a very long time then (but untill this year and Pogacar it was deemed impossible to just do the Giro/Tour double, true legends who have tried and failed just the Giro/Tour double in modern time say its impossible and up untill this year it was deemed almost impossible in what people call/categorize modern cycling)lets see.
Don't tell me what I can and can't do please. (Especially if having said it can't be done you then compare different eras in 4 aspects)
You seem to be celebrating cycling not being competitive now in the majority of your posts.
Think you need to read the post again, cycling is more competitve than ever, were in a golden era. And yeah I love watching history unfold my bad.
Please don't be rude to me: I read that post perfectly accurately. I am challenging whether you are being consistent in making the statement.
Well I don’t know why but Jumbo seemed more like Sky to me than UAE. It is not just the riders but the management. It’s a personal opinion but it was Jumbo’s misplaced confidence they had Pogacar’s measure with Vingegaard in the Tour which really put me off them. This confidence existed despite his April crash. It can come across as arrogance. The other reason why Visma resembled Sky to me was their focus on the Tour. But I noticed Richard Plugge went quiet after the PdB stage. Only then could I begin to have sympathy for Jonas.
never mind the forum meltdown in the months following Sepp destroying everyone at the Vuelta, From March 10th, one poster wrote
Same here - been following the sport since the 90s. Not sure Pog won’t win another grand tour though!
Agreed. Marginal gains to the hilt. Top GC guy only racing in July, counting watts as a method of beating pogi (and doing so). This racing by pogi may appear predictable, but his preparation was necessitated by a much stronger and better managed team in jumbo.
I wonder this too. When Vingegaard became emotional after stage 19 in the Tour I saw a human side. I couldn’t help but wonder if at least privately he might resent the pressure placed on him by Visma team management to win this year’s Tour despite his massive April crash.
Weather played a big part here and others attacked before him. It made sense to go as well. He could ride the climbs in his own controlled pace and didnt have to take risks on the descents.
Exactly.
Jumbo had 24 wins before the Giro last season, where he said everybody was complaining about their dominance. I think that was the point the other poster was making to highlight that there is not much objectivity on matters. Jumbo had a good year last season, this year they have had bad luck with crashes for a number of their best riders which have affected them.
Pogi is #1 by far, and everyone else is a distant second, but wouldn't MVDP still be the favorite in P-R and even other classics if they were to face?
Yeah, a race like PR MVDP has to been seen as the favorite but nobody would be surprised to see Pog being a big rival there. Already beaten him in Ronde once and he has done well on the cobbles. Seen in the TdF on stages incoperating them. PR type stages.
He would but I said we have a Big one only, not an invencible rider. But I think Pogacar is more capable of winning PR than MSR, he has the biggest engine in the world and the best classics team alongside Visma.
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