Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Colonel]

it was all due to the heat and exhaustion as a result of the same, which lasted from 7 stages of the Tour to the Col de Loze and the stomach could not digest it, the heat problem was solved by proper heat training for the 1st time in his life in 2024

From a performance side alone, a few sessions of heat adaptation doesnt fix or solve digestive issues. thats not what "heat training" is or does.

 

[scribers]

The problem with Ayuso is he might want to be a protected rider for top ten GC result. Sit in the pack and cling to selections. Eat all the pasta at team dinners etc. probably snores too. No sleep for pogi

 

[Colonel]

, everyone in the peloton wears Core measuring devices except Tadej until this year hey WTF

No they dont.
This is a BS comment

 

[Colonel]

Ayuso has nothing to do on the Tour with Pogi, but that's not up to me to decide, Bjerg, Pollit, Wellens and little Morgado, Del Toro, Majka and Yates would be my choice because Majka is useful there and great for the atmosphere in the team, he has a great relationship with Pogi, it's not just about who is better in terms of numbers, but what kind of relationship he has with the captain

This isnt a Tour winning Team in terms of support. The current line up is significantly stronger and more experienced. It's the Tour, not Valencia.

 

[mou]

This isnt a Tour winning Team in terms of support. The current line up is significantly stronger and more experienced. It's the Tour, not Valencia.

I respect the opinion

 

[Colonel]

Fair enough, but I didn't ask for 20 minutes or 1 hour efforts. I'm interested in 30 minutes and 45 minutes efforts.

To add to this is what he can do at 1700-2200m of altitude. All the number being thrown around my Mou are all basically at sea level with little starting elevation.
If for example he is only capable of going 5.5-5.7wkg for 35-45min at this elevation he wont be able to be ahead of Vinegaard.

 

[mou]

This isnt a Tour winning Team in terms of support. The current line up is significantly stronger and more experienced. It's the Tour, not Valencia.

my opinion is that little Morgado is already ready this year to be there for Pog, Del Toro too, you think Ayuso and Almeida will do better things, hm

 

[KZD]

my opinion is that little Morgado is already ready this year to be there for Pog, Del Toro too, you think Ayuso and Almeida will do better things, hm

You just can't send two 19 and 20 year old neo-pros on a Tour squad that will need to support a GC contender, no matter how talented they are.

 

[scribers]

No they dont.
This is a BS comment

Everyone in language can also mean those who matter. Not literally everyone

 

[Colonel]

my opinion is that little Morgado is already ready this year to be there for Pog, Del Toro too, you think Ayuso and Almeida will do better things, hm

As I said, you talking about the Tour de France. Not Valencia.

None of those 2 riders are ready for a full Tour winning support role right now. In the coming future, maybe sure, we will see but definitely not now. This is where your lack of knowledge is starting to show cracks.

 

[Elos Anjos]

I don't think Almeida is the type of guy that refuses to work just because of ego issues.

His type of climbing and pacing himself is simply not helpful. As soon as he arrived he apologized to McNulty.

 

[scribers]

my opinion is that little Morgado is already ready this year to be there for Pog, Del Toro too, you think Ayuso and Almeida will do better things, hm

Those guys would never shred their legs the way deal toro was for pogi at strade, that’s for certain. The kid is a revelation and a true leader.

 

[joseph89]

my opinion is that little Morgado is already ready this year to be there for Pog, Del Toro too, you think Ayuso and Almeida will do better things, hm

Now i can't take anything you say seriously, smh

 

[scribers]

As I said, you talking about the Tour de France. Not Valencia.

None of those 2 riders are ready for a full Tour winning support role right now. In the coming future, maybe sure, we will see but definitely not now. This is where your lack of knowledge is starting to show cracks.

You’re being pendantic here and elsewhere amongst some very interesting counterpoints. He can mean these teammates not going have qualities that are better suited to a winning support staff for pogi. Instead they are sending something different from a failure to culture qualities over years.

 

[mou]

think whatever you want, if the numbers say that Morgado is better than Soler, then Morgado goes, if you didn't know, Morgado shows phenomenal numbers in terms of endurance at the training camp, he is young, fighting and will die for the team, the same for Pog at the Vuelta At 19 and a half years old, they said he was young, he couldn't last 3 weeks, and he finished 3.

 

[Berniece]

think whatever you want, if the numbers say that Morgado is better than Soler, then Morgado goes, if you didn't know, Morgado shows phenomenal numbers in terms of endurance at the training camp, he is young, fighting and will die for the team, the same for Pog at the Vuelta At 19 and a half years old, they said he was young, he couldn't last 3 weeks, and he finished 3.

Just because you push the numbers doesn't mean he's ready mentally for something as the Tour. You don't just drop a 19-year old in the circus that is the Tour as a dome for a yellow jersey contendor.

 

[Colonel]

You’re being pendantic here and elsewhere amongst some very interesting counterpoints. He can mean these teammates not going have qualities that are better suited to a winning support staff for pogi. Instead they are sending something different from a failure to culture qualities over years.

No, sending 2 neo pros at 19 to be full support to Tadej at the Tour - the Tour - is setting up for failure. You can spin what he says as much as you like cause when the time comes, numbers aren't the only thing that count.

 

[scribers]

We’ll never know if Morgado can or cannot unless he goes, which at this time, he is not. This doesn’t diminish @mou credibility. Just exposes differences in opinion for those without access to morgados numbers

 

[Berniece]

We’ll never know if Morgado can or cannot unless he goes, which at this time, he is not. This doesn’t diminish @mou credibility. Just exposes differences in opinion for those without access to morgados numbers

Then send him to the Vuelta first, where he can dip his foot in the GT water. If Bora did one thing right with Uijtdebroeks it's slowly introducing him to the WT.

 

[mou]

you really value the established opinion about the young and the old, the only one who would go without perhaps deserving is Rafal Majka, which is why all of us who are better informed know what Majka means to Pog, the rest works because that's what the numbers say and who wouldn't caused problems in the team, you know who the boss is, if the workers are not all 100% with the boss, everything goes to waste, why do you think that Andrej Hauptman is almost always with Pog, why is he a good DS ahahaha, no, he is desperate, but he speaks Slovenian What do you think Pog asked for Majka this year and Domen Novak on the Giro because there is no Hauptman, Matxin can assemble the others, but those 2 were Pog's condition

 

[Colonel]

We’ll never know if Morgado can or cannot unless he goes, which at this time, he is not. This doesn’t diminish @mou credibility. Just exposes differences in opinion for those without access to morgados numbers

I dont think anyone is discrediting him, he makes some valid comments but there is also comments that are incorrect, not factual or doesnt lead to an outcome he is presenting. this shows that he is running of 2nd hand info from some connection in the team. Just cause I have have a hot plate, flour and oven doesnt mean im a baker.

 

[Elos Anjos]

Sending Morgado so early seems like classic cannon fodder. Too early too young to get cooked.

 

[scribers]

I dont think anyone is discrediting him, he makes some valid comments but there is also comments that are incorrect, not factual or doesnt lead to an outcome he is presenting. this shows that he is running of 2nd hand info from some connection in the team. Just cause I have have a hot plate, flour and oven doesnt mean im a baker.

You can disprove something that can’t be proven. It’s an opinion. He might be right. Again this is pedantic. There are much more interesting points you bring up that are already a page back

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

you really value the established opinion about the young and the old, the only one who would go without perhaps deserving is Rafal Majka, which is why all of us who are better informed know what Majka means to Pog,

I guess most of us who dont see the numbers would still pick Majka based on what we see him performing in the races. Majka has been doing a brilliant job the last few years, and I think you’re underselling him when you are basically saying that Majka only goes because he’s having a good relationship with Pogi.

 

[Colonel]

You can disprove something that can’t be proven. It’s an opinion. He might be right. Again this is pedantic. There are much more interesting points you bring up that are already a page back

To you pedantic. Eye of the beholder.