Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[scribers]

Jordan played against literal grocery baggers. Weak era, very watered down. JaVale McGee would be considered an all-time great playing against Greg Ostertag.

That era would pisspound todays era. It was a brutally physical game back then

 

[Ilmaestro99]

nobody watches NBA. Mickey mouse sport

 

[mou]

Vingo is David Robinson. Damn good but just kinda there

Robinson was very good on both sides of the field, while if Vingo stepped on Flanders, he would break both arms and legs

 

[DNP-Old]

That era would pisspound todays era. It was a brutally physical game back then

The majority of 90s players would be unplayable today due to lack of outside shooting. They’d get run off the floor. You’re too high on nostalgia. The game right now is better than its ever been.

 

[scribers]

The majority of 90s players would be unplayable today due to lack of outside shooting. They’d get run off the floor. You’re too high on nostalgia. The game right now is better than its ever been.

It is a very different game now yes. And Jordan was a unique specimen that would dominate todays game too

 

[mou]

That era would pisspound todays era. It was a brutally physical game back then

@scribers that you and I are not related? We agree on 99% of things

 

[Valv.Piti]

On second thought, this analogy is pretty good. Pogacar is Jordan, because he ain’t the GOAT like LeBron.

Bro

 

[mou]

Bro

just stop it🤣🤣🤣is the rest of the sentence

 

[Netserk]

The majority of 90s players would be unplayable today due to lack of outside shooting. They’d get run off the floor. You’re too high on nostalgia. The game right now is better than its ever been.

If direct match-up is the measure, does that mean that Indurain is the GOAT of cycling?

 

[Taxus4a]

If we look at it ultra realistically, Pog is on a special level even compared to MVP for classics, Strade Bianche Pog, San Remo 65:35 MVP, Flanders 60:40 Pog, Roubaix MVP, Liege Pog, Lombardia Pog, whether people want to admit it or not if we include Strada in the monuments, Pog is the clear favorite in 3 races, two races are open and 1 race goes smoothly MVP

It is not a question of quantity, but diversity. If someone can win Roubaix and Lombardía is from another Planet...if he IS even podium at both IS amazing...and if one is able tobwin Flandes and Lombardía is quite amazing, more if you beat today amazing riders for cobblestones.

 

[Berniece]

It is not a question of quantity, but diversity. If someone can win Roubaix and Lombardía is from another Planet...if he IS even podium at both IS amazing...and if one is able tobwin Flandes and Lombardía is quite amazing, more if you beat today amazing riders for cobblestones.

So Gilbert

 

[Salvarani]

If direct match-up is the measure, does that mean that Indurain is the GOAT of cycling?

They are doing mental gymnastics as usual.

 

[Slavique Nuke]

The mod needs to step up his game, as American sports could only be mentioned in the "clinic". It is not cool to glorify those who have never had to pass a legitimate anti-doping test in their lives.

 

[mou]

Pollit, Bjerg, Baroncini, Morgado, R. Oliveira, Wellens, Pog, for Flanders 2025, may God help the others....

 

[scribers]

Assuming he can prevail in the giro this year, back to a full focus on spring classics campaign for pogi in 2025?

 

[mou]

Assuming he can prevail in the giro this year, back to a full focus on spring classics campaign for pogi in 2025?

The conditions for 2025 are Bianche and Flanders, Matxin can put together what he wants, but those 2 races are Pog's express desire and he prefers the Giro to the Tour, but because of the sponsor he has to

 

[scribers]

How about P-R?

 

[mou]

How about P-R?

if you ask me, what will his schedule look like if he wins on Saturday San Remo, for 2025 - Strade Bianche, 3 weeks training then Flanders, 2 weeks training then Liege, Giro, altitude camp, Tour, rest 3 weeks, 6 weeks training then world ,Lombardy...

 

[mou]

P-R maybe only from 2026

 

[Brullnux]

It would be extremely fun if both Vingo and Pogacar made the Giro their main aim next year, while both also trying the Giro-Tour double. Might even make the Tour an even four/five horse race.

I don't see a world in which this'll happen as the days of targeting the Giro over the Tour seem behind us (potentially also in front of us, no guarantee that this is a permanent state) but Vingo and Pog are both good enough to fight for the TdF win vs Remco and Roglic on a Giro hangover so perhaps sponsors can be convinced.

 

[mou]

here is the UAE Plan for Saturday-Domen is the nanny of Pog until the last 50km of the race, then to 3 coppi covi, ullisi, and hirschi will reduce the peloton as much as they can and they won't be able to do much, I tell you that in advance, the key player is Mcnulty who was ordered to Cippresa full gas as if a leopard is catching him and if Mcnulty reduces the peloton to 30-40 names and he could, his task is to drag full gas to Poggio and the first 200-300 m as much as he can, then Wellens takes over the game full gas and then Pog destroys everything and stays at 100% in the 2024 season, and now one thing is wishes, and another is possibilities, Mcnulty is the key here...

 

[mou]

one more piece of information, Mohorić trained with Pog this winter at least 10 times down the Poggio and down the Coll d'Eze to Nice TT route of the Tour, to be more precise he showed him the lines of how to pass the turns, for this season not a single detail was left undiscovered, Pog intends to seriously destroy everybody in the next 3-4 peek years of his career

 

[joseph89]

Preach! Teach these heathens.

 

[scribers]

P-R maybe only from 2026

Hoping he can prevail again in the tour and turn his attention to other goals on the calendar. It's insane to track a rider attempting all of this stuff. I always assumed Merckx was a product of the times when not as many riders were as serious and/or specifically trained for terrains. And I am probably unfairly wrong at that. But to see a current rider with these qualities picking off impossible tasks is a joy.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

It would be extremely fun if both Vingo and Pogacar made the Giro their main aim next year, while both also trying the Giro-Tour double. Might even make the Tour an even four/five horse race.

I don't see a world in which this'll happen as the days of targeting the Giro over the Tour seem behind us (potentially also in front of us, no guarantee that this is a permanent state) but Vingo and Pog are both good enough to fight for the TdF win vs Remco and Roglic on a Giro hangover so perhaps sponsors can be convinced.

If Pog wins the Giro he will turn to other objectives next year: possibly Roubaix or Vuelta.