Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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KZD

KZD

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Nice Giro start for Pogačar with a stage win and a 45 second gap to the nearest rivals. I also think some users are overreacting a bit to what happened today. Pogačar was still head and shoulders above anyone else, a 27 second gap is actually very large for a climb like Oropa which is far from being the hardest climb of this Giro especially after coming from a bike change before the climb itself.

This is also not the kind of climb where we should realistically have expected a big improvement from Pogačar as he was always a beast in these 15-25 minute climbs anyway. The areas where Pogačar could in theory improve more are the 30min+ climbs, especially at altitude, recovery and time trials and according to some, like mou, this is exactly where he put his focus on for this season, so to get a more clear picture, we will need to wait for stages 7 and 8 and to get the full picture we will have to wait for the Tour unless someone steps up big time in the coming weeks.
 
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kn0s

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So now we are going to debate whether 80km solo is expected or not? I’m sorry but I’m not doing that… You go and dig out how many times an 80+ km solo was successfully done in modern cycling. It doesn’t even need to be with 3 min advantage in the end. And then we can discuss how expected or unexpected it is…
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I get that saying the number "80km" makes it seem unlikely, but with the aid of just a little hindsight, it was not that far fetched.

Him saying he would do it, even if it was a little in jest to start with
The way the race is planned, with just more of the same added compared to last time.
The (for Pogi) underwhelming competition.
Sometimes a number is just a number, still crazy impressive but so was his last win.
 
Extinction

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KZD said:
Nice Giro start for Pogačar with a stage win and a 45 second gap to the nearest rivals. I also think some users are overreacting a bit to what happened today. Pogačar was still head and shoulders above anyone else, a 27 second gap is actually very large for a climb like Oropa which is far from being the hardest climb of this Giro especially after coming from a bike change before the climb itself.

This is also not the kind of climb where we should realistically have expected a big improvement from Pogačar as he was always a beast in these 15-25 minute climbs anyway. The areas where Pogačar could in theory improve more are the 30min+ climbs, especially at altitude, recovery and time trials and according to some, like mou, this is exactly where he put his focus on for this season, so to get a more clear picture, we will need to wait for stages 7 and 8 and to get the full picture we will have to wait for the Tour unless someone steps up big time in the coming weeks.
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In the absence of a Vingegaard, he doesn't need to improve here on 30+ climbs, and in the absence of an Evenepol here, he doesn't need to improve on his time trials.
 
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He himself said that the objective was to arrive in Rome fresh, and that today in the attack (without a potentiometer) he touched the red a little and dedicated himself to regulating the second half. He could have gone faster? Sure, but for what and at what cost?
 
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Of course, but who knows if he will even need it for the Tour this year.
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Indeed.

At the moment it looks like he should focus on winning the Giro whilst using as little energy as possible. Rather then trying to improve some nonexistent weakness. I seriously doubt Vingegaard will be there and I don’t see him as weaker than even peak Roglic in any way.
 
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Some guys on this thread should calm down. Pogi is just not at his absolute peak form this giro and he doesn't need to. If he was on his last years tour stage 6 onwards form he would take close to a minute today. Its understandable from the teams decision to build into this giro and peak for the tour.
 
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Next 3 stages are crucial. He needs to avoid crashes and I'm almost sure that we will have at least one big crash in the next 3 days. If I was him, I would go with my team to the back of peloton even if I could potentially lose 30 seconds in pile ups.
 
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AmRacer

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Peyroteo94 said:
Next 3 stages are crucial. He needs to avoid crashes and I'm almost sure that we will have at least one big crash in the next 3 days. If I was him, I would go with my time to the back of peloton even if I could potentially lose 30 seconds in pile ups.
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Poggi has raced for the win in 5 GT's.
3-1-1-2-2. Has has crashed, like today or when Jonas waited for him.
 
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Part of his reason for wanting to be in pink the whole Giro is probably because he’s so used to being interviewed and putting on special jerseys every day that it would throw him off his rhythm otherwise. Wonder if anyone has any stats on number of days he’s spent in leader or youth/KOM jersey vs regular team jersey in GTs.
 
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