Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Red Rick]

Pogi didn't look at his best today. 27 seconds is not as much as I expected and he looked a lot stronger in Catalunya. Was surprising to see O'Connor following him too

Probably took a bit of a breather between LBL and the Giro. Your form temparily goes down a bit as but it the rest pays off as you get back into racing.

 

[kingjr]

Pogi didn't look at his best today. 27 seconds is not as much as I expected and he looked a lot stronger in Catalunya. Was surprising to see O'Connor following him too

He'll probably get better

 

[velaso montador]

Probably took a bit of a breather between LBL and the Giro. Your form temparily goes down a bit as but it the rest pays off as you get back into racing.

its all been stated. Hes racing the giro as a training block per Uae bosses long before it started. So ofcourse naturally he will only grow into it and the goal is to win and go out of it fresh and stronger than he was going in and fresh and build on that to the tour. Thats the UaE goal if it goes according to their plan.

 

[jmdirt]

This kid is good!

 

[Rob5091]

Probably took a bit of a breather between LBL and the Giro. Your form temparily goes down a bit as but it the rest pays off as you get back into racing.

Was n't there talk abot training at the Giro? After Vingegaard's crash I think UAE really thought that Teddy can do the double barring accidents. The crazy strong UAE team for the Tour won't be needed so much or might be changed. We'll see.

 

[Offline]

He didn't looked like a rider that wasn't going full gas. Especially last 2,5 km.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Pogi didn't look at his best today. 27 seconds is not as much as I expected and he looked a lot stronger in Catalunya. Was surprising to see O'Connor following him too

You have all the right to think this (personally I agree) but you ruin all your credibility when you say O'Connor was able to follow him. Dude, he completly exploded after trying to follow Pogi.

 

[bNator]

Because they put the 30 extra km in? Other than that it was copy/past of last time he won.

So now we are going to debate whether 80km solo is expected or not? I’m sorry but I’m not doing that… You go and dig out how many times an 80+ km solo was successfully done in modern cycling. It doesn’t even need to be with 3 min advantage in the end. And then we can discuss how expected or unexpected it is…

 

[Oldermanish]

He didn't looked like a rider that wasn't going full gas. Especially last 2,5 km.

Day 2....don't get too frisky. Not sure he restrained himself near enough so my projected race strategy is already done.

 

[Nick2413]

I don’t think he was underwhelming today. He’s on pace to win by like 10 min if he keeps it up on the big stages.

 

[snipeheem]

17:28

 

[jmdirt]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH0HJpYrsaQ

 

[Gigs_98]

I think the big story of the day was that his gap was big enough so the other riders wouldn't be in the background of his finish photo. Makes it look nicer.

 

[Oldermanish]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH0HJpYrsaQ

"not end of the world without your power meter....listen to your body". I knew I like this guy for some reason.

 

[Red Rick]

I think the big story of the day was that his gap was big enough so the other riders wouldn't be in the background of his finish photo.

Some people were talking about taking more than a minute.

I don't think they ever looked at a stage result of an Oropa finish before

 

[QueenStagiaire]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH0HJpYrsaQ

Is this that Barbie movie that everyone was talking about?

 

[KZD]

Nice Giro start for Pogačar with a stage win and a 45 second gap to the nearest rivals. I also think some users are overreacting a bit to what happened today. Pogačar was still head and shoulders above anyone else, a 27 second gap is actually very large for a climb like Oropa which is far from being the hardest climb of this Giro especially after coming from a bike change before the climb itself.

This is also not the kind of climb where we should realistically have expected a big improvement from Pogačar as he was always a beast in these 15-25 minute climbs anyway. The areas where Pogačar could in theory improve more are the 30min+ climbs, especially at altitude, recovery and time trials and according to some, like mou, this is exactly where he put his focus on for this season, so to get a more clear picture, we will need to wait for stages 7 and 8 and to get the full picture we will have to wait for the Tour unless someone steps up big time in the coming weeks.

 

[kn0s]

So now we are going to debate whether 80km solo is expected or not? I’m sorry but I’m not doing that… You go and dig out how many times an 80+ km solo was successfully done in modern cycling. It doesn’t even need to be with 3 min advantage in the end. And then we can discuss how expected or unexpected it is…

I get that saying the number "80km" makes it seem unlikely, but with the aid of just a little hindsight, it was not that far fetched.

Him saying he would do it, even if it was a little in jest to start with
The way the race is planned, with just more of the same added compared to last time.
The (for Pogi) underwhelming competition.
Sometimes a number is just a number, still crazy impressive but so was his last win.

 

[Extinction]

Nice Giro start for Pogačar with a stage win and a 45 second gap to the nearest rivals. I also think some users are overreacting a bit to what happened today. Pogačar was still head and shoulders above anyone else, a 27 second gap is actually very large for a climb like Oropa which is far from being the hardest climb of this Giro especially after coming from a bike change before the climb itself.

This is also not the kind of climb where we should realistically have expected a big improvement from Pogačar as he was always a beast in these 15-25 minute climbs anyway. The areas where Pogačar could in theory improve more are the 30min+ climbs, especially at altitude, recovery and time trials and according to some, like mou, this is exactly where he put his focus on for this season, so to get a more clear picture, we will need to wait for stages 7 and 8 and to get the full picture we will have to wait for the Tour unless someone steps up big time in the coming weeks.

In the absence of a Vingegaard, he doesn't need to improve here on 30+ climbs, and in the absence of an Evenepol here, he doesn't need to improve on his time trials.

 

[AmRacer]

In the absence of a Vingegaard, he doesn't need to improve here on 30+ climbs, and in the absence of an Evenepol here, he doesn't need to improve on his time trials.

Not here, but for the Tour.

 

[Fos]

He himself said that the objective was to arrive in Rome fresh, and that today in the attack (without a potentiometer) he touched the red a little and dedicated himself to regulating the second half. He could have gone faster? Sure, but for what and at what cost?

 

[Extinction]

Not here, but for the Tour.

Of course, but who knows if he will even need it for the Tour this year.

 

[AmRacer]

Of course, but who knows if he will even need it for the Tour this year.

Guess we won't know until we see Remco and Rogla in Dauphine.

 

[Bolder]

Of course, but who knows if he will even need it for the Tour this year.

Indeed.

At the moment it looks like he should focus on winning the Giro whilst using as little energy as possible. Rather then trying to improve some nonexistent weakness. I seriously doubt Vingegaard will be there and I don’t see him as weaker than even peak Roglic in any way.

 

[Extinction]

Indeed.

At the moment it looks like he should focus on winning the Giro whilst using as little energy as possible. Rather then trying to improve some nonexistent weakness. I seriously doubt Vingegaard will be there and I don’t see him as weaker than even peak Roglic in any way.

Pog has the best chance for the double possibly now.