Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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I was actually one of those that after the 2019 Tour thought Ineos transitioned from Wiggins to Froome to Thomas and for the next years Bernal will win GTs. While obviously no one could foresee Bernal’s accident, I am wuite confident that with the rise of Pogacar and Vingegaard that anyway Bernal would have never matched them. Really crazy to see how far above the rest they are.
Do we have other examples for that? Contador and Schleck obviously also did some stand stills in the mountains before dropping anyone again. But realistically - their margins were never as big. Armstrong and Ullrich? Maybe.
 
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That really does not sound plausible to me
Why not? Usually it's the third week that does the damage. Greatest winning margin in that time frame was 11'26" in 1965 (next in line are 2006 and 1973).

Adorni only led the Giro by 3'16" after stage 15 in 1965.
 
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Why not? Usually it's the third week that does the damage. Greatest winning margin in that time frame was 11'26" in 1965 (next in line are 2006 and 1973).
Cause going back to the mid 1950s is an extremely long time and includes the times of Anquetil, Merckx and Hinault beating up pub riders in the time when they though riding on alcohol was a great idea
 
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Why not? Usually it's the third week that does the damage. Greatest winning margin in that time frame was 11'26" in 1965 (next in line are 2006 and 1973).

Adorni only led the Giro by 3'16" after stage 15 in 1965.

Well, for starters he found a counter-example.

The post was about Grand Tours not specifically the Giro.
 
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Okay, but I'd guess the commentator said for the Giro, and it's true for that.

Back then they had a nice 282 km mountain stage:
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(and the next day they had to alter the route as they couldn't descend Stelvio)
 
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That really does not sound plausible to me.

Takes 2 minutes to find Ocana leading TdF 73 by 10 minutes by stage 12
I guess that the commentators were talking specifically about the Giro so that's what they (probably) referred to. Now if Basso led by +9 minutes obviously they were as wrong as I was answering the broader question.
 
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Cause going back to the mid 1950s is an extremely long time and includes the times of Anquetil, Merckx and Hinault beating up pub riders in the time when they though riding on alcohol was a great idea

Teddy's rivals (aka farmers from various countries) seem to share the same idea nowadays.
 
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Btw, back 70 years ago that 1954 Giro was won in the first week with the OG L'Aquila breakaway. On stage 6 Carlo Clerici went from being +19'39" in GC to lead the race by 13'43" (he took more than half an hour on Koblet that day, and won the Giro by 24'16").

The Pereiro of the Giro. Sometimes, it confuses me that he had time to win in the Bartali/Coppi era where Fiorenzo Magni also squeezed in three GC wins (okay, I know Bartali was done by 1954 but still).
 
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Google it. 1998 Tdf stage 15. 🙂. I am sure you will find it in YouTube.
My word. Thanks for the history.

Back when real men rode bikes, using nothing but EPO and non aero bikes and wheels with wide handlebars, attacking the alpine descents in the pissing rain and freezing cold with no helmets?!?, rim brakes and the equivilent of a garbage bag to keep warm.

Insane! o_O:eek::flushed::tearsofjoy: