Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Miha81]

He’s sour that his rival doesn’t pull him more often.

It could actually benefited both today. But I guess old habits die hard

P.S. Still waiting how Pogi / Remco raid would turn out

 

[Peyroteo94]

He’s sour that his rival doesn’t pull him more often.

Today he is right. Vingegaard could pull a little bit more. There were no bonus seconds left

 

[Didinho]

I guess he’s attacking when he feels confident he can go untill the top. If he doesn’t drop Vingo on the steep part you can even get a counter from him. Now you know you go together to the top. A little test. If he drops Vingo he goes solo. If not, together.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Now all that remains is to push hard on the Galibier (team included this time) and give everything. In the worst case scenario, he will arrive with Jonas at the finish line, putting a minute on the rest of the field. s
For at least a week there will be no mountains and they will be able to study some strategies if needed

No, he won't. Vinge is not going to cooperate with him at all. If Vingo is not dropped, he will have to wait for Yates.

 

[nightowl]

Yeah, I think Teddy hoped to put at least a few seconds into Vingo. Even if the Dane had bridged back afterwards it would still be a reason for optimism. But no way, on top of that Vingo didn't show a weakness on the descent either. Teddy must be disappointed.

His attack looked like a bit of an afterthought to me, maybe just to see what would happen if he attacked after a bit of hard pacing from Yates. I find it hard to believe he was expecting to put significant time into people attacking from where he did. Wether that’s because he wasn’t feeling it to attack earlier who knows.

I thought he looked good on the descent though - he was even gapping Vingegaard a few times accelerating out of corners - so I don’t think he was feeling terrible.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

It could actually benefited both today. But I guess old habits die hard

P.S. Still waiting how Pogi / Remco raid would turn out

I think Vingegaard realised that if he‘s this strong he doesn‘t need to worry about the other riders and can fully focus on Pogačar like he did the previous years.

 

[Miha81]

I think Vingegaard realised that if he‘s this strong he doesn‘t need to worry about the other riders and can fully focus on Pogačar like he did the previous years.

Maybe. But it is easier to focus only on Pogi if both have couple of minutes buffer in hands. I agree that since this TDF is very backloaded Vinge clearly thinks his time will come in 3rd week.

 

[Froome]

Vingo didn't want to cooperate with him on some previous occasions.

Pogacar has no business in saying something like that. Everybody races the way they want, and Vingegaard knows very well what he is doing.

It wouldn't be beautiful Vingegaard telling that Pogacar after the stage of Cambasque made some progress in the next day because he finally pulled, since he wheelsucked Vingegaard in the previous day on Tourmalet and Cambasque.

 

[Salvarani]

He's not happy about today

With yellow? Damn.

Cant imagine the dark place Roglic must be in, if that is the case. Probably wont sleep tonight.

 

[Miha81]

Pogacar has no business in saying something like that. Everybody races the way they want, and Vingegaard knows very well what he is doing.

It wouldn't be beautiful Vingegaard telling that Pogacar after the stage of Cambasque made some progress in the next day because he finally pulled, since he wheelsucked Vingegaard in the previous day on Tourmalet and Cambasque.

Maybe he is not in best mood since his"superteam" is underperforming and has just found out that his only real rival is in top shape.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Plus wasted 2 stages where he could have been farming boni's

His team not strong enough to control breakaways, it seems!

 

[Salvarani]

Plus wasted 2 stages where he could have been farming boni's

So could Roglic have done. Extremely disappointed.

 

[Miha81]

Plus wasted 2 stages where he could have been farming boni's

Yes. Today 18 seconds were at hand and yesterday he lost at least 6.

 

[fenns]

Pogacar is going to be second again. Only hope is to defend the YJ and bank on time trialling well. He's not going to take time on the slopes and will only tire himself trying

 

[meat puppet]

It is also possible that Pogo learnt from the past two years and came a bit undone himself, aiming to be at his best during the 3rd week.

Anyway, relative to the mere mortals the two just gassed them on the hill. The attack was not weak. I was genuinely surprised Vinge could counter.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Stage 7 will be important. He needs to gain time on Vingegaard and I think he will since he is a better time triallist (not in a third week).

 

[scribers]

These were two very hot days that probably would have been quite different if much cooler. Particularly for uae team support. Pogi has to be happy with this result. Visma will be at least as happy with the proceedings

 

[Salvarani]

He showed everyone at UAE who is boss.

Wasnt that was some of you were shouting for?

Thats settled.

 

[Peyroteo94]

He showed everyone at UAE who is boss.

Wasnt that was some of you were shouting for?

Thats settled.

I know Almeida will work on Tuesday but if Ayuso doesn't work, I will be a mad man!

 

[Medvind]

So should UAE drill it on stage 4 for Pog, trying to shake Vinge?

Or will they rethink it after what happened today? Maybe fearing falling in to the "trap" of Pog doing too much too early, risking paying for it in week 3. Or do they think there are enough easy days after stage 4 where Pog can save energy so that they can go for it on tuesday.

 

[Blobs]

Pogacar is clearly frustrated that Vingegaard doesn't want to join him in wasting unnecessary energy.

 

[meat puppet]

So should UAE drill it on stage 4 for Pog, trying to shake Vinge?

Or will they rethink it after what happened today? Maybe fearing falling in to the "trap" of Pog doing too much too early, risking paying for it in week 3. Or do they think there are enough easy days after stage 4 where Pog can save energy so that they can go for it on tuesday.

If they don't, maybe Vinge says fugit and attacks himself.

Make it thermonuclear all the way.

 

[Medvind]

I know Almeida will work on Tuesday but if Ayuso doesn't work, I will be a mad man!

If he feels ok he will. Ayuso must know his place, Pog is the man, and since Vinge seems to be in good shape it will be even more important that the doms are all in for Pog. Hard to think they would have brought Ayuso to the tour if they thought there was a risk he wouldn't be loyal.

 

[Miha81]

I know Almeida will work on Tuesday but if Ayuso doesn't work, I will be a mad man!

Prepare yourself to be pissed

 

[Medvind]

If they don't, maybe Vinge says fugit and attacks himself.

Make it thermonuclear all the way.

If Pog want to shake Vinge, UAE must be prepared to sacrifice Yates and Almedia's GC ambitions. It is only if they go really hard I can see a Pog attack actually succeed.