Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[yaf]

This is equivalent of 0.4 w/kg threshold change, ridiculous improvement since the Giro. If that's really the case his rivals had better pack their bags and go home and the clinic will soon explode. Does Bruyneel know mou?

Exactly, if his source is to be believed that would be doing a negative split of 7.3w/kg for 12 minutes instead of 6.9w/kg for 13mins on foscagno. Which would be close to 8w/kg adjusted to altitude😉 mou would be like lmao

 

[James M]

impossible to judge him today did nothing wrong stayed out of trouble and all that but also didnt wreck the field to pieces. Ayuso looked affected by the covid.

 

[CleanCiclismo]

There was a moment in the last 10k where the camera was on him for a few seconds. He was nose breathing and looked fresh like the race just started. I also expect him to go full gas tomorrow. He was more than ready today, but perhaps they are thinking ahead and stage 4 is also a good one for him.

 

[Peyroteo94]

There was a moment in the last 10k where the camera was on him for a few seconds. He was nose breathing and looked fresh like the race just started. I also expect him to go full gas tomorrow. He was more than ready today, but perhaps they are thinking ahead and stage 4 is also a good one for him.

Nah, we will have 18 seconds just on bonus so UAE will demolish tomorrow. The only way to not see him winning tomorrow is if he crashes or Vingegaard is able to follow him.

 

[James M]

Vingegaard has no chance im more afraid of Roglic. Watt bomb inc from Pogacar

 

[Peyroteo94]

Vingegaard has no chance im more afraid of Roglic. Watt bomb inc from Pogacar

I don't think Vingegaard has a chance too but Roglic will be okay

 

[velaso montador]

Didnt watch the stage as life came in the way as it sometimes can in the weekends. Also figured it was about to get home safe for all GC folks today and try to save energy in the extremely hot weather.

But how did he look, body language? Any reason to believe at all he looks fresh after the giro and ready to breakt he peleton in one of the upcoming days? or most likely impossible to judge today i assume.

 

[Monsi]

Didnt watch the stage as life came in the way as it sometimes can in the weekends. Also figured it was about to get home safe for all GC folks today and try to save energy in the extremely hot weather.

But how did he look, body language? Any reason to believe at all he looks fresh after the giro and ready to breakt he peleton in one of the upcoming days? or most likely impossible to judge today i assume.

Can't really judge it by today's stage. UAE did try to break the peloton but they ran out of domestiques quickly and Ayuso was also struggling so they stopped. We'll know more tomorrow when Pogi inevitably attacks on the final San Luca climb.

 

[snipeheem]

Didnt watch the stage as life came in the way as it sometimes can in the weekends. Also figured it was about to get home safe for all GC folks today and try to save energy in the extremely hot weather.

But how did he look, body language? Any reason to believe at all he looks fresh after the giro and ready to breakt he peleton in one of the upcoming days? or most likely impossible to judge today i assume.

Impossible to judge i think he look fresh he said after the stage that he was feeling really good

 

[scribers]

They didn’t show the peloton much and pogi was away from the front when they did

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Pogacar very pleased with his form and how he felt on a hot day. Expects gaps on San Luca:

'We tested the legs a little bit' – Tadej Pogačar pleased with Tour de France opener despite no time gains

Slovenian looks ahead to Sunday's possible GC test on San Lucag after placing fourth in Rimini on stage 1

www.cyclingnews.com

 

[Stubb]

Is one between Ayuso and Almeida willing to sacrifice himself on the first two San Luca? If not pog needs to hope in Bora because the team wasn't really convincing yesterday.

 

[James M]

Pogacar very pleased with his form and how he felt on a hot day. Expects gaps on San Luca:

'We tested the legs a little bit' – Tadej Pogačar pleased with Tour de France opener despite no time gains

Slovenian looks ahead to Sunday's possible GC test on San Lucag after placing fourth in Rimini on stage 1

www.cyclingnews.com

Then I expect some watt bombs from him

Is the weather forecasted to be this hot whole next aswell?

 

[yaf]

Ayuso and almeida are toxic personalities i wish
next year we could see the atmosphere in the bus after yesterdays stage on netflix. It was clear that once his turn was coming up ayuso goes to the back bluffing to be dropped by a tratnik pace 🤬

 

[James M]

Ayuso and almeida are toxic personalities i wish
next year we could see the atmosphere in the bus after yesterdays stage on netflix. It was clear that once his turn was coming up ayuso goes to the back bluffing to be dropped by a tratnik pace 🤬

He might be ill for real it has been reported the covid thing on him so he might need a week . I dont know.

 

[Medvind]

We really don't know why UAE didn't continue to push the pace yesterday efter Sivakov was done.
Maybe Ayuso was a bit cooked because of the heat, he sure didn't look superfresh.
And start using superdoms like Almedia and Yates so early in the tour and in a phase of the stage when the climbs left weren't that hard, maybe not that smart.

 

[Salvarani]

We really don't know why UAE didn't continue to push the pace yesterday efter Sivakov was done.
Maybe Ayuso was a bit cooked because of the heat, he sure didn't look superfresh.
And start using superdoms like Almedia and Yates so early in the tour and in a phase of the stage when the climbs left weren't that hard, maybe not that smart.

I think they rode Barbetto hard just to see how the others felt. When they all had no problem... they aborted.

It was still a long way to the finish from there. It would have been dumb and futile to go all out for little gain.

Today is a better opportunity to get a few seconds, with a shorter effort that more has to do with explosiveness and acceleration.

 

[Medvind]

I think they rode Barbetto hard just to see how the others felt. When they all had no problem... they aborted.

It was still a long way to the finish from there. It would have been dumb and futile to go all out for little gain.

Today is a better opportunity to get a few seconds, with a shorter effort that more has to do with explosiveness and acceleration.

Kind of agree, but I also suspect that they might have aborted because they noticed Ayuso struggling a bit. Sivakov starts pacing the 3rd last climb for about 1k, then he just stops and Visma LAB takes over. Ayuso is then among the last in the bunch. Did Visma take over because Ayuso was struggling a bit or was is it because they wanted to start limiting the time to the break for van Aert?

 

[yaf]

We really don't know why UAE didn't continue to push the pace yesterday efter Sivakov was done.
Maybe Ayuso was a bit cooked because of the heat, he sure didn't look superfresh.
And start using superdoms like Almedia and Yates so early in the tour and in a phase of the stage when the climbs left weren't that hard, maybe not that smart.

B/c ayuso doesn't wanna s*** his gc chance working early. If it was the giro team, everyone knows their job and would pull like animals. I would say pog would atleast test jonas if not ride away.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Ayuso is so toxic. He clearly doesn't understand what his level is. He thinks he is better than he really is. If I was in UAE, I would let him go for other team.

 

[Froome]

Ayuso is so toxic. He clearly doesn't understand what his level is. He thinks he is better than he really is. If I was in UAE, I would let him go for other team.

And you said to me i was just creating "chaos" last week, when i spoke about the problems of bring ayuso, yates and almeida together. Ayuso and almeida hid in the peloton yesterday, to not work.

 

[James M]

B/c ayuso doesn't wanna s*** his gc chance working early. If it was the giro team, everyone knows their job and would pull like animals. I would say pog would atleast test jonas if not ride away.

That might the case thinking about it but lets see. Its alo very early and the covid report should be taken into consideration it very well atleast now be the case hes not 100% too for me to early to tell yet.

 

[Peyroteo94]

And you said to me i was just creating "chaos" last week, when i spoke about the problems of bring ayuso, yates and almeida together. Ayuso and almeida hid in the peloton yesterday, to not work.

They still didn't create anything. Yesterday wasn't the day, we will have a clear picture on stage 4. I didn't say that because of yesterday, I said because he raced Amstel, FW and DNS Liège because Pogacar was there.

 

[yaf]

Its too many cooks in the kitchen, 4 riders wanting to do top 5 in the gc is a suicidal approach to any race let alone the tdf.

 

[Offline]

Ayuso wad bad yesterday not disloyal