Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[James M]

One more reason to consider cycling less popular nowadays compared to 20 years ago.

''The Tour de France's global audience has grown significantly. The 2023 edition attracted an estimated 3.5 billion viewers worldwide, compared to around 2 billion viewers in 2000.''

How is that even a discussion from you I genuinly dont get it. 75% increase almost double the intereset. Should be really obvious that cycling has never been bigger from the money alone it gather, but I genuinly dont understand how this is even something you think or discussion to be had as its not in fact a discussion at all its very obvious.<

Cycling has never been bigger or more popular, read the numbers if your confused.

 

[Peyroteo94]

''The Tour de France's global audience has grown significantly. The 2023 edition attracted an estimated 3.5 billion viewers worldwide, compared to around 2 billion viewers in 2000.''

How is that even a discussion from you I genuinly dont get it. 75% increase almost double the intereset. Should be really obvious that cycling has never been bigger from the money alone it gather, but I genuinly dont understand how this is even something you think or discussion to be had as its not in fact a discussion at all its very obvious.<

Cycling has never been bigger or more popular, read the numbers if your confused.

Like I said previously, it was a opinion based on feeling (cycling lost a lot of credibility after LA "confession"), I could be wrong. And after your post, I'm the first one to admit I was wrong.
Cheers mate.

 

[James M]

Like I said previously, it was a opinion based on feeling (cycling lost a lot of credibility after LA "confession"), I could be wrong. And after your post, I'm the first one to admit I was wrong.
Cheers mate.

If you based it on feels and opinion and could be wrong i didnt see that, its all good.
I just find it so weird (not from you alone) but sorry for rant but when its that factually incorrect and easy I just dont get the discussion, thats all, sorry.

Yeah but its clearly never been bigger and still growing, 2024 numbers arent out but I wouldnt be surprised if its closer to 4 billion then 3.5 billion based on annual growth recent years alone.
Cycling is in a golden era and blossoming like never before my friend.

 

[Froome]

Pogacar NOT in contention for BBC World Sports Star of the Year.

Jacques Anquetil and Lance Armstrong remain the only cyclists ever to win the award.

Sports Personality of the Year 2024: Vote for World Sport Star

Voting is now open for BBC Sports Personality's World Sport Star of the Year 2024 - meet the nominees and vote for your favourite.

www.bbc.com

He is not a personality so popular or likable, like some riders of the past.

Guys like Pantani, Hinault would certainly be in contention for this award.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Like I said previously, it was a opinion based on feeling (cycling lost a lot of credibility after LA "confession"), I could be wrong. And after your post, I'm the first one to admit I was wrong.
Cheers mate.

You aren't wrong to think that though, Armstrong was one of the most famous people in the world full stop in the early 2000s, the closest thing cycling has ever had to a Muhammad Ali type mainstream figure. Nobody today comes even remotely close and anyone who was watching back then would say the same. I know about 3 people who could tell you who Pogacar, Vingegaard or Van Der Poel are, everyone over the age of 16 could tell you who Lance is even now, despite his transgressions.

3.5 billion people have been allegedly watching the tour every year since I started watching, it was as nonsense then as it is now, it's based on how many people saw 1 minute of racing throughout the week.

Here's the claim being made in 2014;

The Tour de France: in numbers

From Grand Départ to epic finale, here are the cycling figures and statistics that will ensure you look like an expert as the Tour speeds across the UK, France, Belgium and Spain

www.theguardian.com

And 2016;

https://www.cyclist.co.uk/in-depth/stars-of-stage-and-screen-broadcasting-the-tour-de-france

And 2020;

Tour de France facts: stats from the world's biggest bike race

We all know Armstrong was a long term cheater and that a win from Bernal this year would go down in history - but records go back much further...

www.cyclingweekly.com

 

[Squire]

You aren't wrong to think that though, Armstrong was one of the most famous people in the world full stop in the early 2000s, the closest thing cycling has ever had to a Muhammad Ali type mainstream figure. Nobody today comes even remotely close and anyone who was watching back then would say the same. I know about 3 people who could tell you who Pogacar, Vingegaard or Van Der Poel are, everyone over the age of 16 could tell you who Lance is even now, despite his transgressions.

3.5 billion people have been allegedly watching the tour every year since I started watching, it was as nonsense then as it is now, it's based on how many people saw 1 minute of racing throughout the week.

Here's the claim being made in 2014;

The Tour de France: in numbers

From Grand Départ to epic finale, here are the cycling figures and statistics that will ensure you look like an expert as the Tour speeds across the UK, France, Belgium and Spain

www.theguardian.com

And 2016;

https://www.cyclist.co.uk/in-depth/stars-of-stage-and-screen-broadcasting-the-tour-de-france

And 2020;

Tour de France facts: stats from the world's biggest bike race

We all know Armstrong was a long term cheater and that a win from Bernal this year would go down in history - but records go back much further...

www.cyclingweekly.com

So cycling is clearly less popular now, as 3.5 billion is a smaller percentage of world population today than it was in 2014.

 

[Didinho]

New KOM on Coll de Rates. Season is over before it started.

 

[scribers]

@mou remains bearish on pogi for the vuelta

 

[Salvarani]

@mou remains bearish on pogi for the vuelta

And I think so as well.

MSR, Ronde, LBL, Tour, Worlds and Lombardia are the main targets.

He does Suisse or Dauphine before the Tour, everything goes to plan in the Tour, I dont think he will go Vuelta.

He will a short break in May. Then a short break in August also.

 

[James M]

And I think so as well.

MSR, Ronde, LBL, Tour, Worlds and Lombardia are the main targets.

He does Suisse or Dauphine before the Tour, everything goes to plan in the Tour, I dont think he will go Vuelta.

He will a short break in May. Then a short break in August also.

Indeed its clear what the goals are. But im certain he will be in the Vuelta barring any crash or setbacks, lets see.

'I will talk with Tadej and we'll decide' - UAE and Pogačar to discuss possible Vuelta a España start

Pogačar to ride either Giro d'Italia or Vuelta a España in 2025

www.cyclingnews.com

''Pogačar to ride either Giro d'Italia or Vuelta a España in 2025''

 

[Salvarani]

Indeed its clear what the goals are. But im certain he will be in the Vuelta barring any crash or setbacks, lets see.

'I will talk with Tadej and we'll decide' - UAE and Pogačar to discuss possible Vuelta a España start

Pogačar to ride either Giro d'Italia or Vuelta a España in 2025

www.cyclingnews.com

''Pogačar to ride either Giro d'Italia or Vuelta a España in 2025''

Or it is just mind games towards other teams and rivals.

 

[holmgren]

New KOM on Coll de Rates. Season is over before it started.

When did he do this?

 

[yaf]

View: https://youtu.be/utGTVXqh27k?si=VhV7xmTx5v6AfYtV

Grischa seems quite confident they gonna beat tadej in the tour which tells me jonas is not gonna do giro & we will see them race before the tour in dauphine

 

[rokovski]

When did he do this?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1870131670617337862

View: https://x.com/Domestique___/status/1870131670617337862?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1870131670617337862%7Ctwgr%5E11d22d6190c18219b92adcc947bf0d59dcf10116%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcyclinguptodate.com%2Fcycling%2Fvideo-tadej-pogacar-takes-coll-de-rates-kom-fan-captures-full-uae-leadout-for-world-champion-who-climbs-at-31kmh-for-12-minutes

 

[Lequack]

When did he do this?

 

[Peyroteo94]

Or it is just mind games towards other teams and rivals.

What is his goal by doing that? Forcing other riders to race the Giro and avoid the Tour?

 

[Peyroteo94]

View: https://youtu.be/utGTVXqh27k?si=VhV7xmTx5v6AfYtV

Grischa seems quite confident they gonna beat tadej in the tour which tells me jonas is not gonna do giro & we will see them race before the tour in dauphine

He can't show signs of defeat before the season start. That would be stupid.

 

[yaf]

He can't show signs of defeat before the season start. That would be stupid.

Yeah but we can understand from his comments jonas is gonna give his all for the tour & likely wont do the giro which would be music to roglics ears and another chance for us to see the top two gc riders battling before the tour at dauphine

 

[Peyroteo94]

Yeah but we can understand from his comments jonas is gonna give his all for the tour & likely wont do the giro which would be music to roglics ears and another chance for us to see the top two gc riders battling before the tour at dauphine

This is what and I think all cycling fans want.

 

[scribers]

And I think so as well.

MSR, Ronde, LBL, Tour, Worlds and Lombardia are the main targets.

He does Suisse or Dauphine before the Tour, everything goes to plan in the Tour, I dont think he will go Vuelta.

He will a short break in May. Then a short break in August also.

If he does the Vuelta, or they really think he will, he might just forego racing in June. However, this is Pogi and he'll probably zone 2 a Suisse win.

 

[holmgren]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1870131670617337862

View: https://x.com/Domestique___/status/1870131670617337862?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1870131670617337862%7Ctwgr%5E11d22d6190c18219b92adcc947bf0d59dcf10116%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcyclinguptodate.com%2Fcycling%2Fvideo-tadej-pogacar-takes-coll-de-rates-kom-fan-captures-full-uae-leadout-for-world-champion-who-climbs-at-31kmh-for-12-minutes

Wow. Thanks.

 

[Salvarani]

What is his goal by doing that? Forcing other riders to race the Giro and avoid the Tour?

It was a joke.

He is not doing Giro and wont decide on Vuelta until after the Tour.

 

[Peyroteo94]

If he does the Vuelta, or they really think he will, he might just forego racing in June. However, this is Pogi and he'll probably zone 2 a Suisse win.

João is doing TdS so I believe Pogacar will race Dauphiné or not race at all in June (specially if he is targetting Tour-Vuelta).

 

[Peyroteo94]

It was a joke.

He is not doing Giro and wont decide on Vuelta until after the Tour.

I agree.

 

[holmgren]

Back on "old bike" yesterday for team ride posted on X.

Looking forward to watch him on the new one.