Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Salvarani]

Don't forget some people are following cycling just recently and probably don't know what is a MSR route with Manie there.

That is a good point. New generation could just be discovering this race. We need to inform and educate them on the history of it.

 

[Tanakka]

If Pogacar was actually the GOAT, he could do it like Merckx who won it 7 times in all possible ways.

If Merckx was actually the GOAT, he could do it like Binda who in 1927 won 12 stages out of 15 at the Giro.

 

[Berniece]

If Merckx was actually the GOAT, he could do it like Binda who in 1927 won 12 stages out of 15 at the Giro.

Merckx at least won the Giro itself as many times as Binda. Maybe if Binda also had the palmares of Merckx there was a case to be made, but that's not really the situation now is it? It's not like Pogacar has a similar palmares as Merckx and the only thing missing is his MSR wins.

 

[Salvarani]

If Merckx was actually the GOAT, he could do it like Binda who in 1927 won 12 stages out of 15 at the Giro.

And dont forget the legend Constante Girardengo, who won or podiumed MSR 11 times.

 

[Peyroteo94]

That is a good point. New generation could just be discovering this race. We need to inform and educate them on the history of it.

And don't even know this race was 15-20 years ago questioned about how it was a monument since it was dreadful to watch.

 

[Tanakka]

Merckx at least won the Giro itself as many times as Binda. Maybe if Binda also had the palmares of Merckx there was a case to be made, but that's not really the situation now is it?
It's not like Pogacar has a similar palmares as Merckx and the only thing missing is his MSR wins.

Nah... the point is that you cannot compare athletes from different eras.
People seem to never accept said reality because it's not fun, but to do the aforementioned thing is silly nonetheless.

55 years ago? Forget about it.
I wasn't even born and you could hardly follow the races, btw.
You cannot weigh 'palmares' 1 to 1, across half centuries.

Talent dept, specialization, and other aspects, change too much.
Binda winning 12 out of 15 stages of a GT holds no relevance in modern cycling.
The guy was obviously great, but it would simply not be feasible today.

I'm not even arguing whether Pog is better than Eddy or not, but I'm pretty convinced that nowadays it's way harder to win multiple MSRs than in Merckx's day, unless, perhaps, you win them in Zabel's fashion.

Binda-> half a century-> Merckx-> half a century-> Pogacar
I'd only compare Pog to people who competed in modern cycling,
Even better (would be) after January 2008, but ok.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Nah... the point is that you cannot compare athletes from different eras.
People seem to never accept said reality because it's not fun, but to do the aforementioned thing is silly nonetheless.

55 years ago? Forget about it.
I wasn't even born and you could hardly follow the races, btw.
You cannot weigh 'palmares' 1 to 1, across half centuries.

Talent dept, specialization, and other aspects, change too much.
Binda winning 12 out of 15 stages of a GT holds no relevance in modern cycling.
The guy was obviously great, but it would simply not be feasible today.

I'm not even arguing whether Pog is better than Eddy or not, but I'm pretty convinced that nowadays it's way harder to win multiple MSRs than in Merckx's day, unless, perhaps, you win them in Zabel's fashion.

Binda-> half a century-> Merckx-> half a century-> Pogacar
I'd only compare Pog to people who competed in modern cycling,
Even better (would be) after January 2008, but ok.

Great post. I fully agree.

 

[yaf2]

Time to rewatch key phases of last 3 years of msr and analyze what went wrong & envision the 🐐 flying on sanremo climbs in my dreams throughout this holy week of cycling

 

[Pozzovivo]

Time to rewatch key phases of last 3 years of msr and analyze what went wrong & envision the 🐐 flying on sanremo climbs in my dreams throughout this holy week of cycling

You need look no further than the complete lack of support from Ulissi, Hirschi and the other jokers.

 

[snipeheem]

Time to rewatch key phases of last 3 years of msr and analyze what went wrong & envision the 🐐 flying on sanremo climbs in my dreams throughout this holy week of cycling

I believe he have to go full blast at cipressa and then yolo