Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Peyroteo94]

Time to switch his focus for cobbled classics.
Best time of the year is coming and Pogacar vs MVP vs WVA is great to watch.

 

[Froome]

Time to switch his focus for cobbled classics.
Best time of the year is coming and Pogacar vs MVP vs WVA is great to watch.

Jorgenson will be in the fight.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Don't get why they haven't announced Roubaix yet, some kind of shakedown?

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

This is was probably said earlier in the thread, but why on earth did Pogacar spot Mvdp a few bike lengths going into the sprint? Seems like he should have either taken a flyer from back there or been glued to his wheel.

 

[scribers]

Don't get why they haven't announced Roubaix yet, some kind of shakedown?

Their star is probably pissed off at the way the team is managed. He showed up guns loaded and the team withered from the top down

 

[Peyroteo94]

Don't get why they haven't announced Roubaix yet, some kind of shakedown?

They will probably announce on Monday or Tuesday

 

[Fos]

Both riders need less power to go with the same speed. The attacker and who is being attacked

It would make sense that the one glued to the wheel would benefit more from the tailwind and be dragged by the one in front. Two handicaps for the one in front.

 

[jono]

It would make sense that the one glued to the wheel would benefit more from the tailwind and be dragged by the one in front. Two handicaps for the one in front.

Tailwind favors the attacker. It was all anyone could talk about in the 2023 finale.

Or, perhaps more precisely, if the attacker can get a gap the tailwind makes it more likely to stick. Pog never got a big enough gap on any of his attacks to take advantage.

 

[scribers]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1903520651463245907

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I blocked this out of my mind from the trauma

 

[gregrowlerson]

This is was probably said earlier in the thread, but why on earth did Pogacar spot Mvdp a few bike lengths going into the sprint? Seems like he should have either taken a flyer from back there or been glued to his wheel.

Pogacar was about to take a flyer, but MVDP either saw him start to take one (or try to take one, he couldn't even threaten to pass Ganna) or anticipated it perfectly and started his own sprint at the same time. Smart.

 

[Savant12]

MSR remains the hardest classic for Pog to win. But he'll get it done one year.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Pogacar rode great and was in great shape, only issue is so is MVP who is also better suited to this race. Someday he should win, but beating MVP will be very tough when he’s in good shape.

 

[BullsFan22]

Pity about not getting the win, but just about any other top rider would be happy with this result at this stage of the season, considering that his goal(s) will again be the GT's. It just shows you how gifted this guy is.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Tailwind favors the attacker. It was all anyone could talk about in the 2023 finale.

Or, perhaps more precisely, if the attacker can get a gap the tailwind makes it more likely to stick. Pog never got a big enough gap on any of his attacks to take advantage.

Exactly this. Tailwind is important to increse the chance of attackers in maintaing a gap to other riders, specially a peloton of 40 riders.

 

[SHAD0W93]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1903520651463245907

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I blocked this out of my mind from the trauma

I thought this cost Pog dearly till MVP attacked at the top, now not so sure but stinks it occurred. Pog had a pretty good gap and could have accelerated out of the corner.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I think Pogacar has never been so strong in MSR. Not only a thermonuclear attack on Cipressa but he basically lead almost the whole Poggio (attacking a few times) and yet he managed to neutralize a late attack by MVP at the end. Flandres should be a great rematch but generally 2025 doesn't look good for Pogi's rivals.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I think Pogacar has never been so strong in MSR. Not only a thermonuclear attack on Cipressa but he basically lead almost the whole Poggio (attacking a few times) and yet he managed to neutralize a late attack by MVP at the end. Flandres should be a great rematch but generally 2025 doesn't look good for Pogi's rivals.

I thought the same. He closed the gap to MVP when he attacked after doing so much work (a lot more than MVP). A fail to see where is MVP able to follow Pogi in Kwaremont, specially when his team is miles better compared to 2023.

 

[Salvarani]

I thought the same. He closed the gap to MVP when he attacked after doing so much work (a lot more than MVP). A fail to see where is MVP able to follow Pogi in Kwaremont, specially when his team is miles better compared to 2023.

I dont disagree, but I wont take for it granted before the race. There will hopefully be another great battle between them.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I dont disagree, but I wont take for it granted before the race. There will hopefully be another great battle between them.

Well, in 2 weeks we will know. I just ask for no crashes and let the best win.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Well, in 2 weeks we will know. I just ask for no crashes and let the best win.

Pogacar looks to be in monster form and Kwaremont will be carnage but MVP is also very strong. Should be a great duel. I favour Pog there but MVP is the only one who can beat him. I can't see anyone else (even Wout) in the contention for victory.

 

[Red Rick]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1903520651463245907

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I blocked this out of my mind from the trauma

So now motodraft FC is a problem?

 

[Salvarani]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1903520651463245907

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I blocked this out of my mind from the trauma

Clearly blocked there, but MVDP also took his turn really well.

 

[yaf2]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1903711538877227313

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If pidcock who was held in the crash at the start of cipressa was on their wheels he would follow them easy on such gradients and probably would have been the most dangerous in the group with his descending abilities but we all know what happened to him on a harder race two weeks before today. So stay calm! vdp following pog easy on cipressa & poggio is irrelevant for whats to come in E3 and flanders

 

[Fos]

Tailwind favors the attacker. It was all anyone could talk about in the 2023 finale.

Or, perhaps more precisely, if the attacker can get a gap the tailwind makes it more likely to stick. Pog never got a big enough gap on any of his attacks to take advantage.

Yes, I was talking about an attacker without a gap.

 

[Rou]

Some more info:
Watts2win have Pogacar's numbers on Cipressa as follows: 7,52W/KG for 8:56 -
Performance index 88. This is the best climbing performance of the season so far.
MVDP and Ganna also recorded their career best performances on that climb.