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Peyroteo94

Peyroteo94

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Monsi said:
Not sure who’s the lightest rider to ride PR in the last 25 years but Pidcock rode last year and his PCS weight is 58 kg. He finished 17th, more than 6 mins down on MVDP.

About the lightest winner I could find in that same time period, Marc Madiot won in 1991 weighing at 68 kg. He’s actually the last sub-70 kg rider to win Roubaix as of today.

I found the info from this website: https://www.cyclistshub.com/paris-roubaix-statistics/
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Interesting!
 
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Salvarani said:
I guess it will always be pretty difficult to go into Cipressa perfectly.

What Wellens did was huge. I wouldnt say Narvaez was disappointing, but the circumstances made Pog having to improvise and go earlier then what was the plan I think. I can understand if he may have been frustrated with how it played out and given his own position going into the climb. Then it looks like Narvaez might not have paced himself very well when he got on the front. Of course, he might have been on the limit already but maybe if he goes just a tad bit slower or just pull until he sees Pog goes past him instead. Rewatching, it looks like Narvaez just empties himself too soon... when he wasnt supposed to do that and Pog looks to side a bit perplexed. Realises he has to attack.

Again, it is hard to perfect given how they went into the climb and that will always be crucial. Del Toro getting lost in the sauce completely. There are some important details that could have been better. Still, it almost worked anyway. You just got to go for it, as they did. Cant wait. That is racing.

It showed a Cipressa attack might work though in the future. It didnt look impossible.
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But wouldn’t MVDP still be on Pog’s wheel regardless of when he launched. And that’s really the only problem with their race strategy is that MVDP is in the race?
 
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Sciatic said:
But wouldn’t MVDP still be on Pog’s wheel regardless of when he launched. And that’s really the only problem with their race strategy is that MVDP is in the race?
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I dont think so.

Narvaez being able to pull for a little bit longer and also potentially Del Toro doing a short stint would mean they could have put the pressure on a bit more, before Pog attacks.

Now he had to attack pretty early and his attack wasnt instant when Narvaez pulled to the side. Pog wasnt really ready to launch but he had to improvise.

The key is to make that first hard attack stick, after putting pressure on for a bit longer than what they could do here. Still it almost worked, but it could be an important detail to be able to put more pressure on for another 30-40 seconds before the attack comes.

I think a better entry into Cipressa and being able to put on pressure just a little bit more could be the difference needed to succeed here.
 
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JoãoRamos said:
If he wins this year, only 5 more.

I think he can win 10, I know it's difficult, but the route is tailored made for him.

I hope you are wrong.
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it all depends on whether he can avoid bad crashes and injuries, look at roglic, he's 9 years older and still at his best (or at least close to it). If he stays healthy the next 10 years he can win 5 more
 
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JoãoRamos said:
If he wins this year, only 5 more.

I think he can win 10, I know it's difficult, but the route is tailored made for him.

I hope you are wrong.
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He's still at 4, don't count chickens before they are hatched.
I think he has a good chance to end up with 7-8 wins but the more ahead we go the more unclear the image becomes (how long can he keep high level without setbacks? new, potentially dangerous rivals in a few years).
 
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Krzysztof_O said:
He's still at 4, don't count chickens before they are hatched.
I think he has a good chance to end up with 7-8 wins but the more ahead we go the more unclear the image becomes (how long can he keep his form? new, potentially dangerous rivals in a few years).
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I did not count. I said IF he wins this year. There is a conditional here.
 
Peyroteo94

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I dont think so.

Narvaez being able to pull for a little bit longer and also potentially Del Toro doing a short stint would mean they could have put the pressure on a bit more, before Pog attacks.

Now he had to attack pretty early and his attack wasnt instant when Narvaez pulled to the side. Pog wasnt really ready to launch but he had to improvise.

The key is to make that first hard attack stick, after putting pressure on for a bit longer than what they could do here. Still it almost worked, but it could be an important detail to be able to put more pressure on for another 30-40 seconds before the attack comes.

I think a better entry into Cipressa and being able to put on pressure just a little bit more could be the difference needed to succeed here.
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I think UAE doing a better entry is what is missing. Pogacar can be behind but his teammates need to be close to the front.
 
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Peyroteo94 said:
I think UAE doing a better entry is what is missing. Pogacar can be behind but his teammates need to be close to the front.
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I said the entry is crucial. It is what then enables them to put pressure on like they would ideally want, before the attack comes.

But as I also pointed out, that will be very hard to do. There will likely always be something not going to plan. Other teams and riders are gunning to position themselves as well. It is too early to go on Berta. This year was a good attempt, but things could have also been better as pointed out. A few details. They should definitely try again.
 
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Salvarani said:
I said the entry is crucial. It is what then enables them to put pressure on like they would ideally want, before the attack comes.

But as I also pointed out, that will be very hard to do. There will likely always be something not going to plan. This year was a good attempt, but things could have also been better as pointed out. A few details.
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When I say a better entry is like having 2 riders in the top 20. Not that difficult, specially because I think they will pace Berta in the next year.
 
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