Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Peyroteo94]

Very true. The only thing that gives me some nerves is not doing any prep races over the cobbles.

Yup, not doing E3 was a dumb move IMHO.

 

[Peyroteo94]

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WVA is closer to Pogi than Pogi closer to MVP. Those who voted are clearly far from understanding a tiny bit of cycling.

 

[JoãoRamos]

Yup, not doing E3 was a dumb move IMHO.

VDP said he needed a few days to recover from E3 effort.

So maybe Pog aiming only for RVV and P-R is not a bad thing at all.

 

[yaf2]

WVA is closer to Pogi than Pogi closer to MVP. Those who voted are clearly far from understanding a tiny bit of cycling.

Its called recency bias thanks to ciciban

 

[Peyroteo94]

VDP said he needed a few days to recover from E3 effort.

So maybe Pog aiming only for RVV and P-R is not a bad thing at all.

It would be important to test MVP on Kwaremont. This is the only reason I think should have done E3.
Recovery isn't a problem for Pogacar. He can definitely recover better than MVP.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Its called recency bias thanks to ciciban

2023 is a good benchmark. MVP dropped Pogi in MSR and then he got dropped in RVV.
This year, MVP sucked Pogacar's wheel all the way and he wasn't able to drop Pogacar. The level Pogacar showed in MSR, it should give people a idea what will happen tomorrow.

 

[Berniece]

2023 is a good benchmark. MVP dropped Pogi in MSR and then he got dropped in RVV.
This year, MVP sucked Pogacar's wheel all the way and he wasn't able to drop Pogacar. The level Pogacar showed in MSR, it should give people a idea what will happen tomorrow.

lol what? He didn’t suck his wheel all the way. He took over a lot of times. [content deleted]

 

[Peyroteo94]

Poor Wout. Not even his teammates believe in him.

Dylan van Baarle predicts a battle between Tadej Pogacar and Mathieu van der Poel on Sunday: "Their level is really bizarrely high at the moment"

Dylan van Baarle didn't get to race too much in recent months and years due to terrible luck with crashes. However he was able to put everything together for the spring and will be an important piece...

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[Peyroteo94]

Vermeersch said Kwaremont is where the race will be decided and where Pogacar will attack.
I don't get why they are always saying where they will attack. It is beyond stupid.

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[Bolder]

It would be important to test MVP on Kwaremont. This is the only reason I think should have done E3.
Recovery isn't a problem for Pogacar. He can definitely recover better than MVP.

Pogacar's recovery abilities must be off the charts. He's had 2 bad days that I can recall, both in the Tour, and I'll give him a pass for one. But if he's in a race he's going to be on the attack and most likely winning. Even mvdp will shut it down if he's not going to compete for the win, or do a few "training races."

 

[Jan the Man]

Vermeersch said Kwaremont is where the race will be decided and where Pogacar will attack.
I don't get why they are always saying where they will attack. It is beyond stupid.

Gregário de Tadej Pogacar revela local do ataque no Tour de Flandres "é onde tudo se decide, e acho que não será diferente"

Tadej Pogacar surge, ao lado de Mathieu van der Poel, como o principal favorito ao título do Tour de Flandres. Para a edição deste domingo, o esloveno terá um

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Hardly takes a rocket scientist to work out where Pog will attack.

These online polls are a bit of fun but barring a crash impossible to see anyone other than MvP or Pog winning Flanders.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Hardly takes a rocket scientist to work out where Pog will attack.

These online polls are a bit of fun but barring a crash impossible to see anyone other than MvP or Pog winning Flanders.

You're right but one thing is someone expecting you will attack in Kwaremont, other thing is you tell them where you will attack. It is stupid.

 

[YavorD]

You're right but one thing is someone expecting you will attack in Kwaremont, other thing is you tell them where you will attack. It is stupid.

Telling where he would attack makes a difference only if the planned attack is on a different place than anyone anticipates.
Everyone and their mother knows that he will attack on Kwaremont, so Vermeersch saying that is like sharing a public secret. Changes nothing. Nothing stupid as well.


Besides, I honestly doubt that teams would seriously go with what they hear in these interviews.

 

[scribers]

lol what? He didn’t suck his wheel all the way. He took over a lot of times.[content deleted]

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But seriously, you understand mvp owes that win to pogi? 2024 mvp couldn’t force the selection himself and it was all he had to cover the attacks. It’s better to just hang in pogis wheel while pogi dictates the race. Profit later

 

[Berniece]

But seriously, you understand mvp owes that win to pogi? 2024 mvp couldn’t force the selection himself and it was all he had to cover the attacks. It’s better to just hang in pogis wheel while pogi dictates the race. Profit later

No, I don't understand that. Because last year MVDP wasn't as good as he was this year, he said this himself. He doesn't need Pogi to win MSR, it helps though.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Telling where he would attack makes a difference only if the planned attack is on a different place than anyone anticipates.
Everyone and their mother knows that he will attack on Kwaremont, so Vermeersch saying that is like sharing a public secret. Changes nothing. Nothing stupid as well.


Besides, I honestly doubt that teams would seriously go with what they hear in these interviews.

There is also Koppenberg to be honest.

 

[YavorD]

There is also Koppenberg to be honest.

Still everyone anticipates attack on Kwaremont with or without Vermeersch saying that.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Still everyone anticipates attack on Kwaremont with or without Vermeersch saying that.

It is true but I would like them to just not reveal anything.

 

[Froome]

Draft is what will make impossible to MVP in dropping Pogi

How can you not understand that MVP doesn't need to drop pogacar to win the race?

 

[yaf2]

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[Medvind]

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Head and shoulders above the rest? That's just stupid. Everyone knows that Pog is a serious challanger to MVDP, maybe even the favorite.

But it's interesting that Boonen mentions MSR. Clearly he sees something in fact that MVDP could follow Pog's vicious attacks that bodes well for Ronde. If he is right I don't know, but it sure was impressive of MVDP to follow Pog given that every other rider weren't even close to do it.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Head and shoulders above the rest? That's just stupid. Everyone knows that Pog is a serious challanger to MVDP, maybe even the favorite.

But it's interesting that Boonen mentions MSR. Clearly he sees something in fact that MVDP could follow Pog's vicious attacks that bodes well for Ronde. If he is right I don't know, but it sure was impressive of MVDP to follow Pog given that every other rider weren't even close to do it.

If he is head and shoulders above Pogacar, then MVP can drop Pogacar wherever he wants.

 

[ice&fire]

Based on the two editions of the Ronde that Pog has raced he will attack at every berg starting from the second Kwaremont. Whether he succeeds in dropping all of his opponents is a different matter.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Based on the two editions of the Ronde that Pog has raced he will attack at every berg starting from the second Kwaremont. Whether he succeeds in dropping all of his opponents is a different matter.

I don't think he will attack every single berg but I'm intrigued to see how many riders will be left before the second Kwaremont. A peloton of 40 riders?

 

[Krzysztof_O]

It would be important to test MVP on Kwaremont. This is the only reason I think should have done E3.
Recovery isn't a problem for Pogacar. He can definitely recover better than MVP.

Kwaremont is the best place to attack MVP so Pogi would try it anyway (with or without success, time will tell). I think it's good that Pogacar had a weekend without a race, mental rest is important as well and for him cobbles are not the end of the road season (like for MVP basically), he has a lot of goals ahead.