Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[scribers]

He didn't have a watt bomb in RVV 2022 and RVV 2023.

MSR is a total different race imho.

So the only chance for VDP is to not lose contact and wheelsuck all day long, beating Pog in a sprint.

If the same thing as MSR happens, Pogi has to sit on MVP's wheel for the run in and let mvp hold off the chase.

 

[Extinction]

Only if there is a crash. I can't see another winner.

About the best in this race, VDP has 3 wins, so until today, he is the best.

But I truly believe tomorrow will be total carnage and Pog will prevail in a dominant fashion.

But when two mark each other, it's possible that a third rider rides away laughing. It's not likely, but not impossible in such a race.

 

[James M]

I think you're right, but we are talking about probably the most talented man to ever throw his leg over a bike.

The worst part is, you don’t even have to be a fan of him to say that, you just need to be capable of applying and objectify common sense.

Without demeaning anyone else, because there are several great riders in this era even. He’s just on a completely different level. I like all extraordinary talents. This is Pogacar relative to others—it is what it is.

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/m8HWqdyJ5aI?si=G3SFwE6dr6BRhsMc

 

[Peyroteo94]

But when two mark each other, it's possible that a third rider rides away laughing. It's not likely, but not impossible in such a race.

Yup. I agree with this. Having 2 aliens is actually good for riders like Mads or Wout.

 

[Sciatic]

The nice thing about this “who will do such and such” and “who won’’t be able to” is that we only have to wait until tomorrow to find out! (Unlike when similar discussions happen in November)

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Yup. I agree with this. Having 2 aliens is actually good for riders like Mads or Wout.

Not really. They can cooperate to neutralize a threat up the road like in 2023 they (plus Wout) neutralized a very strong breakaway. A single cyclist would find it much more difficult to do.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Not really. They can cooperate to neutralize a threat up the road like in 2023 they (plus Wout) neutralized a very strong breakaway. A single cyclist would find it much more difficult to do.

Nah. If Pogacar wasn't racing, MVP would give us a solo win (easily). 2022 is a good example of what 2 aliens very equal is good for other riders.

 

[Peyroteo94]

12 hours for another show of this fantastic sport. This is the type of races I invite my friends to see, not TdF. Go Tadej!

 

[scribers]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1908420574839177685

View: https://x.com/lucasaganronald/status/1908420574839177685?s=46&t=X4NqNG7J5ZQ-MxPOi53ECQ


You know who posted this information shortly after pog recon

 

[jono]

Was that the ride with the full lead-out train?

 

[scribers]

not sure where it started but he had at least vermeersch ahead of him for part of it.

 

[Peyroteo94]

not sure where it started but he had at least vermeersch ahead of him for part of it.

He had Vermeersch leading him out for 35 seconds.

 

[scribers]

Bruyneel is convinced pogi will not gap mvp. Climbs are not hard enough and mvp is at peak shape and pogi main goals are later (maybe).

 

[Rackham]

Bruyneel is convinced pogi will not gap mvp. Climbs are not hard enough and mvp is at peak shape and pogi main goals are later (maybe).

That's really vague and noncommittal from Bruyneel. It's obvious Pog's main goal will be the TdF this year. You don't win a cake for making that prediction. Same every year. But De Ronde is still a huge objective. It's a monument. Pog wins monuments. Same with Liège and Lombardia.

In fact I'd go as far to say today is a bigger goal than next weekend in Roubaix, i.e. because it's totally achievable and he knows how to win it.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

That's really vague and noncommittal from Bruyneel. It's obvious Pog's main goal will be the TdF this year. You don't win a cake for making that prediction. Same every year. But De Ronde is still a huge objective. It's a monument. Pog wins monuments. Same with Liège and Lombardia.

In fact I'd go as far to say today is a bigger goal than next weekend in Roubaix, i.e. because it's totally achievable and he knows how to win it.

Pretty much this. We've seen him in awesome form in one day races like WC or Lombardy last year. If he's in similar form today then his chances to win are very high. Agreed that PR is more of an unknown with less pressure to win.

 

[Medvind]

Bruyneel is convinced pogi will not gap mvp. Climbs are not hard enough and mvp is at peak shape and pogi main goals are later (maybe).

RVV is one Pog's main goals no doubt.

If climbs are not hard enough we will see. Sure, no climb is more than a 3 minute effort and that should suit MVDP, but he was dropped on Kwaremont in 2023. He seems stronger this year, whether he is strong enough to stay on Pog's wheel, well, that's the big question I guess.

 

[yaf2]

Good morning! Happy de ronde day🤗 we have been waiting for it for a year and now lets turn it in to a plateau de beille👊

 

[Peyroteo94]

I'm excited for this. Hope to see him win, but if he doesn't, I will take my hat off to Mathieu.
No crashes and bring it on!

 

[Medvind]

I'm excited for this. Hope to see him win, but if he doesn't, I will take my hat off to Mathieu.
No crashes and bring it on!

I think Pog will be incredible today. If Mathieu manages to not get dropped he will have done one of his best races ever. Just hope for a tremendous battle.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I think Pog will be incredible today. If Mathieu manages to not get dropped he will have done one of his best races ever. Just hope for a tremendous battle.

Yup, this is what cycling is all about! MVP vs Pog or Pog vs Vingo. Everything else seems disappointing! But these duels just give me goosebumps!